[identity profile] bellpickle.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] chuunin_archive
A lot of people are complaining over how the Japanese words are pronounced in the dub, when they really have no reason to.

I could understand the cause for complaints if Hokage was pronounced Ho-cage, or if Sasuke was pronounced Sa-SOO-kay, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Though I haven't actually viewed the dub, most of the complaints seem to be centered more on incorrectly stressed syllables, which is a moot point.

Though my experience in Japanese is limited, I've observed that most Japanese words stress on the first syllable. On the other hand, many English words stress on the second syllable, especially when the word has three syllables in all. Hence, the pronunciation of Na-ROO-to.

Though many people may not realize it, it takes a considerable amount of conditioning for most Americans to naturally stress syllables in a different way, even with foreign words.

As long as they generally pronounce the Japanese terms correctly, I don't see what the big deal is. It's silly to expect the English VAs to pronounce the Japanese words without some sort of accent.

Sorry to bog down all of your Friends Lists with more Dub garbage, but hopefully this post will help quell at least some of the complaints.
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Date: 2005-09-11 06:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cains-underoos.livejournal.com
It wasn't that bad. They did roll Rs occasionally, but its a lot better than what I have seen over the years.

My favorite mispronounciation was "Gheynin" by Iruka VA. I demand a "Gheynin" icon now!

Date: 2005-09-11 06:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] narutomonkey.livejournal.com
I actually don't give a hoot on how everything's pronounced. It's anime. Fictional.

entertainment.

Date: 2005-09-11 06:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rejectedstalker.livejournal.com
Your intentions are honorable, but I assure you your attempt will be rendered meaningless within 24 hours.

Date: 2005-09-11 06:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ec-chan.livejournal.com
i dun really care what they pronounce rite or wrong... but the way they pronounced naruto bugged the hell out of me... it's crazy that they can't pronounce that but can pronounce konohamaru XDD... but yeah i understand what u mean about the american part =.=; but they just sounded like they were trying too hard not to pronounce it wrong and they needed to just speed it up =.=;

Date: 2005-09-11 06:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doven.livejournal.com
it was more like ga-NEEN. It was pretty silly. I lol'd.

Date: 2005-09-11 06:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rejectedstalker.livejournal.com
Thanks, your Paine icon is hot too. ^^

Date: 2005-09-11 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hangookmoongurl.livejournal.com
Thank you for making a post about that. I've been trying to point this out to all my friends and mentioned it on this community via comment but no one seemed to pay attention to it.

Stop being elitist punks! :[

Date: 2005-09-11 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jasiri.livejournal.com
Yeah, that's been said, but again I'll say my point. If your job is to say words, say them right.

Date: 2005-09-11 07:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rasenth.livejournal.com
I agreeee!!!

And I bet most of the people complaining can't pronounce it correctly themselves. x_X
And I doubt anybody here can pronounce "yaoi" correctly. Har.

Ah well. If you had a solid bias about something, I guess you would be incredibly nitpicky too. =_= Oh the horror of this incessant friggin BITCHING!

Date: 2005-09-11 07:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cutemew.livejournal.com
hear, hear! props to you :D

Date: 2005-09-11 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pdutogepi.livejournal.com
I agree! I haven't seen the dub yet either (*Sucks to live in the UK*) but I heard how they were pronounced on Viz's website trailer and although it amused me to how they were pronounced I know it's not a big deal, after all lets just be glad they actually KEPT the Japanese names and the terms and like it's been said, we can't expect them to pronounce them all like in the Japanese show, hell I have problems pronouncing some of them right XD;;
So it's livable with *nods*

Date: 2005-09-11 08:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] memoriez-lost.livejournal.com
Word.

Erm.. how exactly is "yaoi" supposed to be pronounced? I have no idea. Seriously. XD

Date: 2005-09-11 10:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emlan.livejournal.com
I never understand why people insist on proununcing the names all japanese when they are speaking in their own language. I mean, when my english friends call me Emily I don't glare at them evily and say that it proununced more like "Emmelé" where I come from, sheesh. It's still the same name.
My bro always mock me for for saying Narruto instead of NAA-ruTO or whatever :'<

Date: 2005-09-11 12:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thomasvye.livejournal.com
On the whole, if there is to be emphasis placed on one syllable or another in the word, there will be an extra letter there to tell you to do it (ie; an extra 'u' to make 'to' into 'tou' for example, hence Naruto being pronounced 'Naruto' rather than 'Narutoe'. Some sounds also tend to be so soft they seem to disappear into the word when you say it (like the 'su' in Sasuke, or the 'shi' in Shino), which can sometimes make it sound like the other syllables in the word have got an emphasis on them when they haven't really...

It's not that I don't recognise that people will have trouble with pronunciation; it's more than I am very fussy about names being right. There is something very important about a person's name (whether it's 'real' or their chosen moniker) and their identity...

But I find the mispronunciation more mildly amusing than offensive. It will be interesting; I guess my major dub was Beyblade and as the original didn't have the enormous Western following that Naruto does, perhaps that enabled them to freely do what they did which was change the majority of the names to Western names.

Anyway, that's enough from me blathering on...I can actually watch the dub now someone kind has posted a link, so I'll have my very own informed opinion soon. ^^

Date: 2005-09-11 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thomasvye.livejournal.com
Ya o i

Ya as in ya

o as in 'top' rather than as in 'oh'

i as in 'ee' rather than 'eye'

That's how I pronounce it anyway! XDDD

Date: 2005-09-11 12:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thomasvye.livejournal.com
Actually, I don't think there has been a lot of bitching; I have read more people saying it's OK than not! ^^ I am looking forward to it now. :)

Date: 2005-09-11 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] memoriez-lost.livejournal.com
Yeah, that's what I guessed too, but I wasn't really sure. Thanks ^_^

Date: 2005-09-11 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xxxemo-girlxxx.livejournal.com
Lol

I heard just a few parts, and, to be sincere, I laughed a whole lot.

Why? Because I know it's gonna be worse when Naruto comes to Brazil. Sasuke will be... Sazzzzuuuukee. XD
Yeah, and they're gonna change the names. They always do. So, don't complain, you still have the original names! ^^v

Date: 2005-09-11 12:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jay-apex.livejournal.com
I think some people are just complaining to complain. They think as fans of the sub they are supposed to despise the dub, so they nit-pick about every little thing. It gets very annoying. They're like mini-Sasukes, angsty and annoying.

Date: 2005-09-11 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-own-boysluts.livejournal.com
Thank you. Like, seriously. A lot of people are just trying to find something to bash the dub on; it's kind of stupid to do so :P Just accept it for what they did and enjoy it; or if you don't want to, watch the freakin' sub, oh my Gahd D:

But seriously, you rock :D

Date: 2005-09-11 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-duelist.livejournal.com
The part that makes me pull my hair out in frustration is that for the most part, the words people are complaining about are the words the dub actors got more or less right. ^^;
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