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Will we ever hear Itachi's story? I am positive that there is more to the story than what the manga has presented so far. I was wondering since Kishimoto is the king of creating redeemable characters. Do you think Itachi can be redeemed? Do you even want him too? It's something that has bugged me forever since most Naruto characters get at least one major flashback and yet someone like Itachi, who is such an integral part of the story, never really had a flashback from his perspective. All we get is Sasuke's side of the story. What do you think it will take for him to be fully (or more realistically, partially) redeemed? How do you think Itachi's part of the story play out?

Date: 2005-11-20 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unikorn.livejournal.com
maybe he's a bipolar schitzophrenic!

I'm bored too x)

Date: 2005-11-20 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deathpicnic.livejournal.com
As much as Itachi is my favorite character, I don't really think he serves too much of a purpose on his own. His importance is only in relevance to Sasuke; therefore, whatever ending he gets will only be the one that goes hand-in-hand with what Kishimoto wants for Sasuke. While many characters are redeemed eventually, it's difficult to imagine how Itachi could be redeemed in a vaguely climactic manner other than perhaps the revelation of the fact that he commited none of the accused crimes, which then would require a heck of an explanation for the way he's been acting, not to mention that still doesn't justify why he's been prancing around with a gay terrorist group.

Sad, yes, but I think that Itachi's ending will most likely be death by Sasuke, which then perhaps serves the purpose of triggering something in said avenger. We'll be treated with a flashback of why he killed everyone, then as Sasuke finally understands everything and what's driven him for so long, his personal denouement will come. Death of Itachi will probably be at the very end of the manga and wrap up the loose ends of Sasuke and team 7.

Everything I've said, btw, is under the assumption that Kishimoto is going to continue writing the story in the same style - simple and dramatic. To think too hard on this is to overestimate the plot and create complications that probably will never appear. How much it'll take for Itachi to be redeemed depends on how faceted his personality will become. In my opinion, not very.
From: [identity profile] deathpicnic.livejournal.com
dfagjakl DARTH!

That'd be too sad. ;__; But then people can make cute comics about it and it'd be all better.

hmm and I think Kishimoto kind of had let Sasuke go. I mean what would've happened once they'd have gotten him back? It'd be a waste of the whole Orochimaru thing.

Date: 2005-11-20 06:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shuqra.livejournal.com
Hmm well after reading countless Agatha Christie novels (yes I have too much time on my hands) I've gotten a pretty good feel for common characteristics of a murderer:

The murderer can and will be the one no one expects, and not many expected Itachi, ANBU captain, to silently kill off his clan.

Usually within the course of a murder mystery, a character will end up finding out too much information and therefore must be eliminated... in ep. 129 flashbacks, Itachi is confronted by other members of his clan who suspect him for his relative's suicide. They're promptly disposed of.

The murderer is usually pleased with himself and likes to boast about how dumb the police are. Itachi gloats to Sasuke about the Uchiha massacre.

The murderer is usually unappreciated, pressured, or just not 'right in the head.' For Itachi, I believe it's a combination of all three. The Uchiha cliché, "...as expected of my son" comes to mind. In every family there's got to be one 'weird relative' and for the Uchiha clan, Itachi was it.
I believe Itachi had suffered from some sort of mental illness long before he decided to murder his clan, although I don't think the decision was spontaneous- he carefully planned each attack.

Following this pattern, in murder mysteries the conclusions vary. In one instance, the murderer, a 9-year-old girl, drove off with a close friend, who promptly killed herself and the girl in an attempt at redemption. In some cases, the murderer kills him or herself. In other cases, the murderer is toted back to Scotland Yard. It really varies. All I can say is that in most cases, the murderer isn't glorified for their transgressions.

Putting this in Itachi's context, this is the pattern skip. We've already gone through the parlor interrogations and fireside accusations. There is absolutely no doubt Itachi murdered the Uchiha clan. Sasuke's character also differs from that of the usual family members in that he's
1. not a melodramatic, self-proclaimed actor
2. not a retired military general with occasional PTSD
3. not a quiet recluse who spends each afternooon tatting
4. not a bubbly gossip who knows every secret of St. Mary's Meade

Sasuke wants revenge toward the perpetrator, and jail ain't gonna cut it. Maybe Sasuke feels responsibility as the last remaining member of the Uchiha Police Force to track Itachi down.
Following Sasuke's current path, he's being lured into another of Itachi's tricks- no matter how hard he tries, Itachi will still be Sasuke's brother. Because Sasuke is disassociating himself from Itachi, he's falling right into Itachi's trap, which is to break off from family. Now, realistically this would all end in tragedy. Or, at least, that's how the pattern goes.

Date: 2005-11-20 06:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xxbrinstarxx.livejournal.com
I dont think Itachi will die by Sasuke's hands...after the repeated lectures about how avengers end up...after all the angst and trouble the heroes go through for Sasuke...

I always figured Itachi would commit suicide, or maybe (let's say Sasuke had the MS or something) would be put into some sort of eternal tsukiyomi :O

Date: 2005-11-20 11:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayuuko.livejournal.com
I agree with the theory that Itachi won't die by Sasuke's hands (like the person before me already mentioned)...

I always thought he will have some kind of sad end... I think Sasuke needs some kind of slap in the face to wake him up... If Itachi dies a dramatical way (like him saving Sasuke from someone else or something like that) it would be the best way to get Sasuke in the right direction. And I bet at the end Sasuke will be good again since he was a good guy from the start... and Itachi is the main trigger for Sasuke's decisions. Itachi isn't a mad person... he knows what he is doing... and there was something GOOD inside of him... so it could happen...

When something like this happens we could find out more about the whole Uchiha massacre and the life Itachi had before he killed his whole clan...

Date: 2005-11-20 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-rong.livejournal.com
Wow.. that was some analysis.

Date: 2005-11-20 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kunoichi-jaden.livejournal.com

I like Itachi for his complexity, but really, the guy just scares the hell out of me. Anyway... I don't know about him being redeemed fully, because he is a mass murderer. There's no coming back from that, unless there's some wild twist and he didn't do it after all. That wouldn't explain his current situation and actions, though. That would also mean that Sasuke's driven himself crazy for no reason at all >.< As for his ending, even if Sasuke doesn't kill him, he'd be executed by Konoha if he's caught.

Although, I think it's possible that Itachi may be the one to save Sasuke from Orochimaru. And then he'll scold his Nii-chan-- "I didn't let him have my body. What makes you think that I'll let him have yours." XP

Date: 2005-11-20 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jiah.livejournal.com
Personally, I believe Itachi's just a murderous psycho who was quite possibly dropped on his head a few too many times as a child.
However, this reminds me of a certain April Fool's scenario that came into my mind a few days ago...

Itachi: *writing at a desk*
Kisame: *comes up* What are you doing?
Itachi: A letter.
Kisame: *reads* "I'm sure this comes far too late, but I want you to know the truth. Everything that happened, the coldness and violence, was all simply to protect you. I did not kill them. There was a force greater than the two of us in action, and it was the only thing I could do to shield my precious brother-" Uh, Itachi, don't you think that's a bit much?
Itachi: I just wish I could see the brat's face...
*Few days later, Sasuke reading the letter*
Sasuke: ... O.O DAH FUH?!

Date: 2005-11-21 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitsukikun.livejournal.com
He has to have a reason. He has to. He loves his little brother, in a weird twisted sort of way. I've got a feeling it's got something to do with (the evolution of?) the sharingan. Maybe he stumbled across something of evil Uchiha-ness. ??? Maybe he was protecting Sasuke from something. Whatever it is, I think Kishimoto-san's plot is far to tight to have Itachi just killing people because he's a psycho ninja who wants to prove his worth. Anyway, whatever he was trying to kill was distincly Uchiha, because he didn't go after the village.
I agree with those who say Sasuke won't kill Itachi. Who knows why? Maybe Naruto will finally get through to him about his whole 'protecting' your precious people, not dying for people who are already dead. You can't protect your precious people if you live in the past (or are dead). I think it would be sweet if Sasuke defeats Itachi, then tells him he's a coward who won't even kill himself for his crimes... Maybe Itachi will save his life??? (from Orochimaru?) That would be twisted.

Date: 2005-11-21 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitsukikun.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, and I also get the feeling (the very sad feeling) that Sasuke won't make it through the end of the series. *cries* I hope I'm wrong. Anime tends to kill off at least one of its main characters. I can't see it being some random character from the rookie 9 (or 12), unless more than one of them dies. Someone will probably die, and it'll probably be Sasuke. Naruto has such an emotional storyline, someone in this generation almost has to... =(

Date: 2005-11-21 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bou-cafe.livejournal.com
hmmm... Itachi really is one of my fave's so I've tried pondering about this a bit to much. My guess is Itachi may have had a hand/or is completly responsible in the murdering of the Uchiha clan, but something tells me in order to semi-redeem himself in the nartuo story line, he will have had a force behind him pushing him to murder them. Wether this be the Uchiha clan itself, or an outside party I'm not sure of. I definatly think that whatever lies in the scroll in the uchiha basement/closet/whatever that he told sasuke to go look at that holds a big piece of the puzzle. There's definatly something up with the Uchiha clan, something more than meets the eye, and something probubly sinsiter with the sharingan bloodline they have. I have a feeling he'll have a hand in helping them get sasuke away from orochimaru and returning him to the "good side". But as to how much he'll help, I'm not sure. I really hope in a way they'll just have a one sided flash back to tell his background story. I think it's better if sasuke hates him. (yes I realize that's odd, but oh well. >>; ) And honestly they should just have them think he's been killed off, and kinda have him lurking in the bushes and watching over his brother in a protective, almost freaky but not really way. o_O But my guess is he will die. My guesses are probubly way off, but it's just what I think.

Re: I'm bored too x)

Date: 2005-11-21 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simplyablaze.livejournal.com
"...prancing around with a gay terrorist group."

... lol.

Re: I'm bored too x)

Date: 2005-11-21 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thomasvye.livejournal.com
prancing around with a gay terrorist group

jkptkjdnskxt...

...:DDDD It's so true! \^V^/

Date: 2005-11-22 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kagami-x.livejournal.com
Personally, I think Itachi will kill Sasuke. I mean, where does Sasuke have a place in the end of the series? I honestly just don't see how he can be happy and be alive. Myabe Itachi WILL die.. but Sasuke won't be the one to kill him.

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