Rokubi fanon ideas request
Nov. 29th, 2008 12:19 pmI'm going to have some fic space shortly in which I could write about the jinchuuriki we never got to meet in the manga. I really only have room to write a backstory and plot role for one. I'm thinking I'd like to write about this dude right here, the Rokubi's jinchuuriki:

Naturally we know almost nothing canonical about him. He doesn't even have a forehead protector so we can see his village of origin.
I could conceivably make up a fan!history for the guy from scratch. But I was thinking, I'd rather ask the fandom for various fanon ideas they came up with. Someone's got to be RPing this character, or have come up with a backstory, name, personality, jutsu, etc for him. Anyone got any ideas to share? I will of course fully credit all ideas used in the fic itself.
One caveat though- if I use him in the fic, he's going to suffer the same fate of all jinchuuriki in Naruto. He's going to get captured by Akatsuki and killed when they strip out his bijuu. But I think I'd like him to put up a good fight first, so anyone with crazy jutsu and bijuu attack ideas for this dude to kick ass with, plz do share. :D
Naturally we know almost nothing canonical about him. He doesn't even have a forehead protector so we can see his village of origin.
I could conceivably make up a fan!history for the guy from scratch. But I was thinking, I'd rather ask the fandom for various fanon ideas they came up with. Someone's got to be RPing this character, or have come up with a backstory, name, personality, jutsu, etc for him. Anyone got any ideas to share? I will of course fully credit all ideas used in the fic itself.
One caveat though- if I use him in the fic, he's going to suffer the same fate of all jinchuuriki in Naruto. He's going to get captured by Akatsuki and killed when they strip out his bijuu. But I think I'd like him to put up a good fight first, so anyone with crazy jutsu and bijuu attack ideas for this dude to kick ass with, plz do share. :D
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Date: 2008-11-29 08:39 pm (UTC)Maybe a village famous for water affinity techniques. Kiri or Taki could be possibilities.
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Date: 2008-11-29 08:43 pm (UTC)Another thing worth noting, is that the Raijuu has a thing for sleeping in people's belly buttons, so it's possible that he was sealed in the Rokubi Jinchuuriki's navel, as the Kyuubi was with Naruto.
Also? The Raijuu was a weasel XD
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Date: 2008-11-29 09:06 pm (UTC)(And on that note, with how Kishi does his elemental rock-paper-scissors, what the heck does water-lightning produce? I mean, water-wind gives ice, and water-earth gives wood, so does water-lightning give fried seafood or something?)
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Date: 2008-11-29 09:32 pm (UTC)yes, yes indeed it does! It is the basis for the little known tempura-no-jutsu!
Although I think that only elements that are right next to one another on the elemental wheel can combine? I might be wrong it's been a while since I've seen it. earth ~> water ~>wind ~> fire ~> lightening ~> earth. Right?
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Date: 2008-11-29 09:34 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-29 09:57 pm (UTC)-Why do I think of pokemon? XD
Jinchuuriki gotta catch 'em all *shot*That aside, I think I'd agree that some of his attacks would be bubble-based :)
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Date: 2008-11-29 10:05 pm (UTC)LOL Akatsuki's true plan after all. If he captured people in his bubbles which then sort of solidified and shrunk eventually crushing the person withing. Or the air pressure INSIDE the bubble could be vastly different from that outside so that when he popped the bubbles it causes an explosion.
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Date: 2008-11-29 10:28 pm (UTC)I guess the only thing we can guess that would be canon about him would be he's one of the two Jinchuuriki that got abandoned by their village. So it should stand to reason that there's something about him that his village didn't like. Either it was he never became a ninja, or he was far too dangerous.
When I look at him I imagine him as a roaming poet or something artistic like that. He's dressed in clothes a little too elegant to fight in. I'm not sure what his bijuu is, but I actually imagine a bird of some kind, like a swam or a peacock perhaps. I don't know if there's any Japanese legends behind those though.
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Date: 2008-11-29 10:38 pm (UTC)Black Hair - Black haired characters are not always instantly defined as being Japanese in anime, though it can symbolise a traditionally-natured or neutral character, as well a portraying the standard school student. A lot of central male characters in shonen series have black hair.
It looks like he has gold or maybe orange eyes. Gold eyes usually means demonic possession, although gold in general means wealth or strength.
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Date: 2008-11-30 01:46 am (UTC)As for the character since he didn't have a headband I pictured him not being a ninja at all. Maybe he's from a noble family of one of the countries. I just started an rp where someone is playing him as such. The story there is that his family auctioned him off as a weapon to which ever village could pay the right price.
If you want I can try to find the information on the origin myth I mentioned above. Kishimoto stuck closely too it. The main difference is the Hachibi which was originally a snake like thing... but since he had Orochimaru he wanted to make Killerbee something different so there wouldn't be duplicate animals.
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Date: 2008-11-30 02:18 am (UTC)And considering he apparently has a lightning-based bijuu, it makes sense. (http://plaza.ufl.edu/rakov/Gas.html)
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Date: 2008-11-30 03:51 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-12-01 12:10 am (UTC)Good suggestion. :D
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Date: 2008-12-01 12:12 am (UTC)A lightning weasel! Yeah, that sounds like Kishi's style. An electrical weasel. xDDDD
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Date: 2008-12-01 12:17 am (UTC)and the earth ~> water ~>wind ~> fire ~> lightening ~> earth. is from Naruto, which elements are strong and weak against which other elements, courtesy of Tenzou and Kakashi. though all I could think of while typing it was Suikoden hehe
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Date: 2008-12-01 12:18 am (UTC)I've heard scattered commentary about dark-haired anime characters and the connotation on them, but not a clear explanation like this. So thanks muchly.
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Date: 2008-12-01 12:29 am (UTC)There have also been other suggestions about the character having either run away from or been exiled by his village, so that auctioning idea is a good one. Amegakure's full of refugees and various other displaced people anyway. Maybe he's hiding out there. Or was bought by Hanzou before Hanzou, well, bought it. xD
Actually, so I can credit the inspiration for that idea properly, could you link me to that person's rp profile? I'll credit you as well for pointing me towards the idea.
About the myth:
I've heard that there actually is no such 'tailed beast' myth- at least not one that existed prior to about 2005. I've heard that it's actually an urban legend-type deal that's sort of taken root as fan apocrypha. But as far as I know, it's not an ancient cultural myth at all.
However, it's for a fic, so who really cares about authenticity? I'll check it out. Thanks very much for the suggestions. :D
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Date: 2008-12-01 12:34 am (UTC)Just to clarify, I'm aware that the elemental affinity wheel you've (quite helpfully, so thanx :D) laid out there is canonical to Naruto. I just wonder if it seems too much like a Pokemon-esque distortion of reality, since that may not fit the fic. I tend to expurge some of the more fantastical elements of the jutsu system when fic-writing, as it can kind of test my suspension of disbelief sometimes. Then again, if everyone's got this 'elemental' chakra, maybe it reacts to other kinds of chakra too... and that kind of makes sense! xD Kind of!
Anyway, all lulz and quibbles aside, thanks for the info.
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Date: 2008-12-01 12:36 am (UTC)I actually read about that little guy roughly ten zillion years ago in marine zoology. xDDDDD I'd forgotten all about it. MOAR good suggestions. :D
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Date: 2008-12-01 12:41 am (UTC)love that coffee deprived parrot
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Date: 2008-12-01 12:51 am (UTC)So yeah, v. tempted here to make the bijuu a pistol shrimp.
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Date: 2008-12-01 01:01 am (UTC):D Anyway, good luck on the fic. I hope you'll post it up for everyone to read.
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Date: 2008-12-01 01:07 am (UTC)To be honest, I've never played or watched anything Pokemon, so I use it sort of as a blanket term for this... whack of similar series and
baldly designed to encourage kids to buy the maximum amount of stuff since you've GOTTA CATCH 'EM ALLgames. They all have this particular quality.I'm having a hard time putting my finger on the exact quality I mean by 'Pokemon-esque' here, but it seems more like a video game mechanism than how weapons would work IRL. 'Weapon A harms Character B with the Blue Magic Thingie but not Character C with the Red Magic Thingie.' As opposed to 'the weapon burns pretty much everyone regardless of magical thingies because o hai, it's a flamethrower. And magic doesn't count as protective body armor.' So on. xD
Oh well, the fic is an introspective character study kind of deal, so I'm already busting canon at the seams. Can't hurt to bust the genre too while I'm at it. Kind of already have, anyway. whee.
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Date: 2008-12-01 01:15 am (UTC)Super Saiyan shrimp! best bijuu ever!
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Date: 2008-12-01 01:20 am (UTC)'Weapon A harms Character B with the Blue Magic Thingie but not Character C with the Red Magic Thingie.' As opposed to 'the weapon burns pretty much everyone regardless of magical thingies because o hai, it's a flamethrower. And magic doesn't count as protective body armor.' So on. xD
true true . Burny death should mean burny death for EVERYONE but I think it's an attempt to put some strategy into the game, I know it appears in Final Fantasy as well
Kind of already have, anyway. whee.
wheeeeeee! take THAT cannon seams!
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Date: 2008-12-01 01:27 am (UTC)True, I hear 'weasel' and I think of Itachi. I just think 'electric weasel' sounds funny, so that was the appeal there.
Dude, this bijuu is going to win everything. I'm kind of tempted to have it be ALL THESE SUGGESTIONS AT ONCE. A poet, an artist, a glass-blower, a chef- AND A PISTOL SHRIMP BIJUU :D
The best part? Plotwise in the fic, this jinchuuriki character should ideally serve as a foil to the two Akatsuki (the fic protagonists) sent to kidnap him. As... wait for it... the voice of reason.
Okay, gotta write this for sure now. xD
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Date: 2008-12-01 01:38 am (UTC)Burny death should mean burny death for EVERYONE but I think it's an attempt to put some strategy into the game, I know it appears in Final Fantasy as well
It's a device that does make a lot of sense within a video game- it simplifies things and also adds the strategic element you mention. It also works decently in a series like Naruto which draws a lot of it's plots from loooong RPG-ish battles. So readers can speculate on whether Weapon A will harm Character B who's got MAGICAL BLUE THINGIE :0 and so on.
But where it doesn't work? At all? In a character-driven fanfic about motivation, complicity in evil and the point where people cease to be victims and start to be perpetrators. And alas, magical items kinda don't fit the genre there at all anymore. xD
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Date: 2008-12-01 01:41 am (UTC)I've got a bunch of people to credit for suggestions, so I'm sure I'll post it here in some form or another. :D
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Date: 2008-12-01 01:47 am (UTC)But where it doesn't work? At all? In a character-driven fanfic about motivation, complicity in evil and the point where people cease to be victims and start to be perpetrators.
so very very very true! And you know what? that's the sort of fic I love to read! Can't wait to read it
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Date: 2008-12-01 01:50 am (UTC)...give them some sorely-needed perspective. Srsly.
Everyone IS kind of crazy in Naruto, but these two characters are like special crazy.
I'll post the link in chuunin when the chapter's written. :D
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Date: 2008-12-01 01:55 am (UTC)Well, the fic already exists. I posted a new chapter a few days ago. But the Akatsuki Capture Teh Pistol Shrimp Bijuu chapter will be WIN and I clearly must write it RIGHT NAO :D
Srsly. Thanks so much for that suggestion. xD
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Date: 2008-12-01 03:02 am (UTC)