I wonder if this has been cleared up...
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chuunin_archiveIf this has been cleared up, please forgive me.
But I must know before I combust!
The big question: Is Gaara really dead? Half of my friend says yes, and the other half says no. I don't know if it's denial or what, but it would be appreciated if someone can please help me. ^_^;; Thanks.
As for me, if Gaara has truly passed on, I thought it would have been nice if Gaara was Kazekage while Naruto rules as Hokage. -_-. But then again, Kishimoto seems like he doesn't like to kill off his main characters easily. That's why there are still doubts about the death of Gaara. T-T
Thanks again.
But I must know before I combust!
The big question: Is Gaara really dead? Half of my friend says yes, and the other half says no. I don't know if it's denial or what, but it would be appreciated if someone can please help me. ^_^;; Thanks.
As for me, if Gaara has truly passed on, I thought it would have been nice if Gaara was Kazekage while Naruto rules as Hokage. -_-. But then again, Kishimoto seems like he doesn't like to kill off his main characters easily. That's why there are still doubts about the death of Gaara. T-T
Thanks again.
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Date: 2005-07-16 11:40 pm (UTC)Personally, I don't think he's dead because it was just way too fast. After I saw it, I was just like, "...wait, he's DEAD?"
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Date: 2005-07-16 11:42 pm (UTC)no that's just me in denial. i hope he's not dead either. =\
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Date: 2005-07-17 12:05 am (UTC)Now I know that Sasori takes the powerful and makes them into puppets before they die thus accessing their jutsu through the puppet, and seeing that he wasn't too pleased with Deidara taking the body of Gaara to use as a lure for Naruto, I do wonder if he wasn't still alive....but it's completely unknown.
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Date: 2005-07-17 12:18 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-17 01:17 am (UTC)Sooo yeah, thats my two cents, I don't really mind if hes dead for some reason... O_o but dont listen to me, I'm weird~
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Date: 2005-07-17 02:23 am (UTC)I'm not sure that kid can take much more failure after failing to bring back Sasuke...
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Date: 2005-07-17 03:41 am (UTC)(It's up to you to decide who this "handsome prince in bright clothing " is. There's more than one. XD)
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Date: 2005-07-17 03:47 am (UTC)No, no I'm pretty sure Kishimoto doesn't have a problem killing off characters. He is able to utilize sacrifice as a means to propel the story onward as opposed to inanely dragging out their existence and I respect greatly him for that. Kinda reminds me of J.K. Rowling with regard to Cedric Diggory and Sirius Black... ;P Oh, Kishimoto! You briefly revealed Gaara's magnificence, only to steal him away from us with his destruction! Sound like Deidara? Why didnt you just let Gaara live on forever, so they could hang out and bowl every saturday till they grew old? Sound like Sasori? Coincidence or not? Perhaps the conflict between Deidara's and Sasori's views upon art reflect the nature with which Kishimoto and his fandom view aspects of the series. If you don't know what I'm referring to, please see Deidara's and Sasori's arguement in chapter 264 for further enlightenment between the parallels coinciding/correlating with Kishimoto's and his fans' attitudes toward the series. Of course, this is just imho, fyi ;P
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Date: 2005-07-17 05:05 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-17 06:22 pm (UTC)um, and neji's not the only leaf that "saw the light" after an encounter with Naruto. Nearly EVERYONE that Naruto meets is changed in some way. They learn to stop being so judgemental of people, especially of Naruto, and are all instilled with the ardent passion for personal improvement that Naruto exhibits daily. Naruto's a great person, and the message of his dedication and optimism resonates within many- yes, even "that fat bitch Chouji." C'mon, dude, don't be hatin! Even the big lug needs some lovin! ;P Besides, killing off a leaf-nin would have a much deeper impact within Konoha than the death of an outsider. Think of all the ceaseless mourning and the neverending daily reminders that would ensue from the death of, say, Hinata. 0_o That turn in events would be a tad bit too angsty and dark, if you ask me. *shrug* Oh well, leave it up to Kishimoto to kill of those we love :P
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Date: 2005-07-17 06:34 pm (UTC)I remember the same convo on Animesuki forum, where for some reason people were predicting the death of Kakashi (god knows where that shit came from!) so they also were saying how he is not important anymore, same was for Neji, how he was not important anymore and his story was over. Pffffffftt, I said it before, and I'll say it again - Haku and Zabuza found piece when they died, Third was dying happy because he thought it was sealing away Orochimaru with him, Kimimaru was proving his point and his existance - Gaara was miserable in those last panels of his "death" - Kishi wouldn't do it, at least I think he wouldn't.
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Date: 2005-07-18 01:06 am (UTC)Kishimoto made Gaara the Kazekage as a means for him to absolve the loneliness and alienation that was plaguing his life from the very beginning. Naruto made Gaara realize that the bonds we share with the people we love makes us stronger and gives us purpose in life. This revelation spurred Gaara's own desire to achieve the acknowledgement of the very people that had alienated him, much like Naruto's situation. According to chapter 249, Gaara elaborates to Kankuro the extent of his newfound quest, whereas Gaara believes that "to escape a path of solitude, one has to work hard and forge new paths with their own power."
What better path to forge than the ascendance to the rank of Kazekage, where his dominance and responsibility over the village of the sand would ultimately lead to his acknowledgement? Kishimoto would not have killed off Gaara during his encounter with Kimimaro, for at that particular time, Gaara had not yet elucidated the nature of his life's goals. Fighting with Kimimaro revealed to Gaara the drawbacks of blindly dedicating yourself to a malevolent force. Encountering such blindness made Gaara wary that he had to metaphorically open his eyes to his own situation as well as the path ahead. Sure, he could have become the Kazekage easily with sheer brutality. But each time we see Gaara, he learns a new lesson about life, compassion, and the bonds we forge with others. Seeing Kimimaro warned him to stay wary of his own ideals and to not blindly follow them.
Life lessons aside, Gaara realized that his life needed a turn towards the better to make up for his dark past and to find peace and happiness for his soul. To directly quote Gaara in chapter 249, "That's why, as a shinobi of the hidden sand, I will aim to become Kazekage, to live a life connected to my village. I'll put forth all my effort... I want to live a life where my existence is acknowledged by others... ...all I've known up until now is hatred and the desire to kill... it makes me wonder, what is a 'connection?'..." Gaara's hypothetical death during the fight with Kimimaro wouldn't have allowed him to achieve this goal of acknowledgement and the acquisition of a "connection" with his own people. He needed to survive until his wish could be fulfilled. "Someday, I want to live an existance where I'm needed by others. Not as a weapon to be feared, but... as the Hidden Sand's Kazekage!"
Kishimoto is a remarkable storyteller, and he has expertly crafted numerous life lessons within each of his beloved characters. What I admire about him so much is his ability to stick to the plot, and his capacity to make sacrifices for the sake of the plot. The Naruto manga series is not fraught with many inane fillers that are chronologically undiscernable from the actual plotline itself, unlike many other series' such as Ranma for example. Coherance between one chapter to the next is barely recognizable for such series's, whereas in Naruto, each chapter is very much entwined into the storyline. Like I said in my previous assertions, if Gaara has indeed died, Naruto will most likely retrieve Gaara's body, and perhaps Gaara might maintain enough consciousness to see Naruto, thank him for changing his life, and to finally say a poignant goodbye. Afterwards I can only hope that Gaara's funeral would be attended by all of Sunakagure as well as the leaf-nin backups to impart their respects upon Gaara, who, in death, would thereby become rewarded with his ultimate goal: the acknowledgement and respect of his village. This would finally provide closure as well as inspire the readers of Kishimoto's story.
However, if he was to live, then we would all rejoice and party and glomp him to death. 0_o Ironic, no?
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Date: 2005-07-18 01:30 am (UTC)Sorry, I don't go all that deep into Kishimoto's storytelling - to me - Gaara's death is cruel, miserable and without any dignity.
I don't believe in sacrificing anyone for the sake of the plot. That's just fucked up, sorry.
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Date: 2005-07-18 01:50 am (UTC)Well, I think it'd be much less painful if Gaara maintains enough consciousness by the time of his rescue to say something like:
G: *weakly opens eyes* "...Naruto?..."
N: "...hey..."
G: "...you've grown..."
N: "Take it easy, you're gonna make it!"
G: "...its too late..."
N: "Don't say that! You're gonna survive!" *eyes tearing up SLIGHTLY*
G: "Its alright..."
N: "..."
G: "...I... I never got to thank you..."
N: "Thank me?"
G: "...for teaching me the joys of a 'connection'..." (or something like that)
N: *tearing up*
G: "blahblahblah...at last I can rest... goodbye, Naruto." *eyes droop closed*
N: *raises both fists into the air* "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!" *walls start shaking and metal starts falling from the sheer angstiness*
^^;; Of course, this is just pessimistic speculation. He might still live!
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Date: 2005-07-18 02:48 am (UTC)We'll wait and see...^_^
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Date: 2005-07-17 03:56 am (UTC)but I've heard from some source that Shukaku was already taken out from him and that means he's dead...
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Date: 2005-07-17 04:27 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-17 06:45 am (UTC)1. Nobody of Gaara's magnitude (story-wise) has been killed off yet. Zabuza and Sarutobi weren't "featured" characters like Gaara.
2. Gaara didn't really have a "farewell". To have an important character killed without some kind of goodbye or satisfying ending seems unlikely.
I wouldn't say it's impossible that Gaara is dead but I'm leaning towards thinking that he lives, especially with Saukra and her medical miracles on the scene.
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Date: 2005-07-18 03:37 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-17 04:06 am (UTC)When Gaara come back to life.....(crack)
Nine tails: Oh~~one tail! Where have you gone??
One tail(from that strange statue's mouth): ($*&%(#*@)%(!@@&$
Nine Tails: You want me to save you? Okay! Hey, kiddo, kill off that guy.
Naruto:(somehow kills Deidara and Gaara drops out of the bird's mouth)
Nine tails: NOW IT'S TIME TO CRUSH THE STATUE!!RAAAAAAAAWRRRR!!!
Naruto:(somehow crushes the statue)
One tail: GAARRA!!!I MISS YOU@!!!(enters Gaara's body)
Gaara:(comes back to life again)
.......XD
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Date: 2005-07-17 04:18 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2005-07-18 02:47 am (UTC)But I would LOVE to see that!
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Date: 2005-07-17 04:58 am (UTC)i love gaara>_< dont think i don't because of what i said sounding jerky or anything. i just don't like the fact that Kishimoto won't do it.
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Date: 2005-07-17 05:28 am (UTC)they probably need him alive to get the shukaku thingy out of him.
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Date: 2005-07-18 11:07 pm (UTC)it's sort of not your fault..
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Date: 2005-07-17 08:50 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2005-07-17 05:57 am (UTC)So... I kind of believe it's yet very possible, that Gaara will survive.
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Date: 2005-07-17 07:17 am (UTC)I also think that it was made pretty clear that, even as Kazekage, Gaara still isn't accepted in his village. And he still doesn't realize that there are people (such as Naruto and his siblings) who care about him. Even though he's Kazekage, he is still alone. I don't feel that his story is over yet. Not until he realizes that he isn't alone.
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Date: 2005-07-17 11:58 am (UTC)I thought it as well that Gaara's life and death was too... sad... and pitiful... to just end up like that...!
Like I said... there's been so many this 'yeah, he died - no wait, he didn't'... you know... close calls... that I simply won't believe yet that it's over with Gaara.
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Date: 2005-07-17 05:04 pm (UTC)Maybe someone will carry his lifeless corpse off into the sunset...?
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Date: 2005-07-17 08:24 pm (UTC)