[identity profile] toki-usagi.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] chuunin_archive
Enough wanking about the dub already! It was inevitable, and whether or not it's the "best dub out there" is BESIDE the point! Get over it, it's done, MOVE ON.

Can we PLEASE bring back the purpose of this community, which is to talk about the series in general, and NOT all this pointless angsting about a recent addition to the American dub library?

And can we NOT spam peoples' friends lists with all the whinging? It's getting old.

Date: 2005-09-14 07:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] superheroine
ANGST BUT YOU CANT UNDERSTAND OUR PAAAAAAIN, YOU HAVENT SEEN IT AND WOULDNT NO HOW HORIFICALLY BAD IT IS ZOMG!!!!1!

By the way most people sound about it, I'm tempted to ask, "So. Get a cast together and do a fandub of an episode or two. PROVE TO US, please, how you are SO MUCH FUCKING BETTER than the official company - what makes them so god damned bad.

Go on, Chuunin. Impress me.

Did ANYONE here expect them to keep it clean and untouched editing-wise? NO. Japan =/= North America. We have different social laws and different media boards. So WHY is everyone so SURPRISED and SHOCKED that Sasuke and Naruto won't be seen kissing? Or other such things that may be cut in the future? Jeez.

Date: 2005-09-14 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ninja-demongirl.livejournal.com
Once spongebob and patrick kiss it'll be ok

Date: 2005-09-14 08:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] superheroine
Well, logically, dear, Spongebob and Patrick don't have a romantic interest in each other. However, you CAN note the episode where Spongebob and Patrick adopted a clam-baby, and formed a family with a slightly abusive overtone, suggesting Spongebob is the helpless housewife and Patrick the lying, lazy slob of a husband. Homosexual overtones, yes.

Regardless of what many people watching Naruto think, homosexuality is something that many parents think is "unsuitable" for TV during hours where it is widely available to young children. Naruto is expected to be the next big hit with kids, and I suspect they don't want parents banning that show - and all the lovely, lovely merchandise - from their children and not buying their products. They want to both please us, the fans (face it, they know we exist) and they want to please the market and make big bucks. Some sacrifices must be made, of course - like the kiss scene - in exchange for less homophobic letters from parents. I don't see why they didn't cut it entirely - they DO still kiss in the dub, you HEAR it, but if they showed the image, the idea that it was a mistake, it would hit home much better.

However, I think the fandom's being whiny and horrible immature about they. Sasuke and Naruto DO accidently brush lips (I wouldn't even call it a kiss) and that's that. If you don't like it, or the voices, or any of the other things that have appeared in the dub, just don't watch it. Stop being horrifically wanky, all of you.

Date: 2005-09-14 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-duelist.livejournal.com
Stop being horrifically wanky, all of you.

Take your own advice, please. Keep it civil when directly addressing other users.

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Date: 2005-09-14 09:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] superheroine
Please excuse me, but how was I being uncivil? My opinion differs from the opinion of others, and I expressed my opinion. I do not think I was being particularly rude to any - it is my opinion that a lot of the general fandom has taken this whole "dub" ordeal too harshly, and I did not specifically name anyone, or accuse the previous poster, as to being "bad fans".

Date: 2005-09-14 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-duelist.livejournal.com
Well, you responded to a one-line comment that may or may not have been intended in humor with a very long post that, to my eyes, reads a bit patronizing (the "dear" really didn't help). This isn't an official warning or anything, I'm just advising you not to get worked up here.

Date: 2005-09-14 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oddityangel.livejournal.com
Not to mention making no distinction between people who honestly just don't like the dubs and those fans caught up in the ZOMG, WANGSTYNESS' of it all....

Date: 2005-09-15 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nakiwarai13.livejournal.com
All that over whether Patrick and Spongebob are gay and should kiss? Geez louise. What is the wank world coming to?

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