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Is Yondaime (The 4th hokage) Naruto's father? They never say anything about his folks (That ive seen, still reading up the manga).. but he looks strikingly like Naruto

Date: 2005-12-17 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donna-c-punk.livejournal.com
It's never been revealed in the manga, either. Though, they do bear a striking resemblance to one another. I have a laundry list of reasons why I believe he is Naruto's father. I'm sure someone else, who isn't hopped up on cold meds, will list most of them out eventually.

Date: 2005-12-17 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jiah.livejournal.com
A popular theory is that Yondaime is indeed Naruto's theory, and then Kyuubi is his mother (going along with the Japanese legends of the fox demons pretending to be humans and taking the forms of beautiful young women). However, most things about Yondaime are simply speculation as we don't really know much about him yet.

Date: 2005-12-17 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/authentica__/
Totally unrelated, but I just had to ask.. (love the icon)

After finally finishing FMA, I was wondering.. where the hell did the Envy lightbulb thing come from? XD Do you know?

Date: 2005-12-17 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jiah.livejournal.com
Well, there was a bit of a fandom in-joke about "How many FMA fans does it take to screw in a lightbulb," and one of them was "One person to insist that the lightbulb is in fact ENVY!" (Here (http://www.livejournal.com/community/fm_alchemist/1074082.html) if you're interested in the whole thing).
Then, for fun, [livejournal.com profile] strawbryshuichi made a set of FMA characters out of lightbulbs, including Envy ^.^

/offtopic

Date: 2005-12-17 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sevetenks.livejournal.com
That is a SERIOUSLY cool icon. ^_-

I support KyuuYon... And KyuuNaru on some occasions... Hum...

Date: 2005-12-17 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jiah.livejournal.com
... father^ not theory. Why did it take me ALL NIGHT to catch that one?!

Date: 2005-12-17 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] koaled.livejournal.com
Yes, I think Naruto is Yondaime's son. But he died and Naruto knows him much and he's talking about himself in chapter 1 and episode 1 when he and Iruka are eatting ramen. And 3 Hokage is talking about when it was in Kyuubi and Yondaime is felt worry about his son of Naruto and he wanted to he will be hero and next hokage in chapter and episode 2. Go to read it.

Date: 2005-12-17 05:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arandomstudent.livejournal.com
Even if Yondaime isn't Naruto's father, I'd say Kishimoto is leading us to think so.
In addition to the striking resemblance between the two, there's the whole thing about Naruto / Kyuubi being the Yondaime's legacy...heir...thing. (I think the Japanese word for Isan or something -- a delibrately obscure word choice, I think, credit to Kishimoto's shrewdness.) This was discussed when Itachi and Kakashi had a confrontation in Konoha (right before Kakashi passed out, that is).

But then, if it really is a father-son relationship...just where is the mother?

But then again, if Yondaime=Naruto, wouldn't it be really weird for Naruto to view himself as his idol / role model / hero?

Date: 2005-12-18 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rose.livejournal.com
Agreed. I personally think Yondaime might even be a redherring and Naruto's father might be someone completely random. Who knows, right?

Date: 2005-12-17 07:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sevetenks.livejournal.com
Some people say Naruto IS the Yondaime... I prefer the YonKyuu idea though.

Date: 2005-12-17 08:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anarexic-cyborg.livejournal.com
Personally I cant really see yondi as naruto's father. But i cante really explain why. he seems more like a brotherly figure to me.

The look ver similar.

Does naruto say that the 4th is his idol or someone he looks up to somewhere in the manga?

Date: 2005-12-17 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fan-geek.livejournal.com
I think Yondaime's past, when it's unravelled, will be this huge and completely unpredicted thing. Whether or not he's Naruto's father won't come into light for, certainly, another 50-100 chapters... and it could even stray until the very end of the series.

Either way, I'm not looking forward to the end very soon, so I say, let Kishimoto keep that information to himself for as long as he sees fit. XD;

Date: 2005-12-17 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diabola-109.livejournal.com
it ether that their father and son or brother and brother (XD not likely) or um...mabey cousin and cousin. oh well we will eventually find out how their related int the end

Date: 2005-12-17 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rinnychan.livejournal.com
Personally, I don't understand the discussion over this topic. So many people ask it, yet it's so obvious that he's his father it's insane. It's like if you asked, "is the sky blue?" and then discussed exactly what pigment "blue" would have to be in order for that to be true. OOP! NO PROOF!

Date: 2005-12-17 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rinnychan.livejournal.com
Naruto's mom must be OBITO.

Date: 2005-12-17 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reallyoriginal.livejournal.com
Naruto's mom must be OBITO.
Ahahaha! That's great, you win!

Date: 2005-12-17 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arandomstudent.livejournal.com
O the horror! >o

Date: 2005-12-17 11:42 pm (UTC)

Date: 2005-12-17 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fork-my-eye.livejournal.com
Hmmm I'm not sure about him being the father... but whoever came up with the theory that Yondaime actually is Naruto... that's crack >_

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