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This is something I've been wondering for a long long long time:

If Orochimaru were to fight Itachi? Who do you think would win?

Date: 2006-03-22 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aerialace.livejournal.com
itachi... because orochimaru even admitted the itachi was stronger than him ;)

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Date: 2006-03-22 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bubble.livejournal.com
Ah, definitely Itachi. Wasn't Orochimaru...somewhat afraid of him at one time?

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Date: 2006-03-22 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princess-emmi.livejournal.com
Orochimaru.... befcause even if he admitted that Itachi was stronger then him then... a lot of stuff has happened since... including Itachi's potential blindness. I apologize if that is a spoiler to anyone... o__O


~Lyn

...besides... Orochimaru is love.

Date: 2006-03-22 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bubble.livejournal.com
OH NOOOOOOOOES!

Itachi is more love.

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Date: 2006-03-22 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] billypilgrim.livejournal.com
Oh god we've regressed to this?

Chuck Norris.

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Date: 2006-03-22 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celebare.livejournal.com
Orochimaru. Because if he was losing he could just call up Voldemort and be like, "'Sup, dude? Hey, I need a favor, man. Can you come down here and help me deal with Itachi?"

Then Voldemort would be like, "Lolz yeah I'll bring Nagini."

Date: 2006-03-22 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princess-emmi.livejournal.com
OMFG! MARRY ME!

~Gaiame-chan

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Date: 2006-03-22 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainbowlasers.livejournal.com
Aah, currently, we're having more of a popularity test, no? Haha.

I don't know -- we haven't seen either of their full strenght. We have to take a lot of things into account -- Orochimaru's "here! I shed teh skin 8D" or ability to JUST GET UP WHAT IS HE A SHOUNEN RETARD?!, and Itachi's "hi I'm blind lolz".

I still say Orochimaru said Itachi was more powerful then him because he goes jutsu = power and we really don't know how many jutsu Itachi has copied, but we can bet it's a whole lot. Meaning that we really don't know if Itachi is truly stronger then Orochimaru.

Sir Leader pwns all, seeing as he _is_ the leader of the organisation who held 'em both 8D

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Date: 2006-03-22 04:19 am (UTC)
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Itachi. The end. D: I can so see him beating the crap out of Orochimaru and kidnapping Sasuke. Even blind.

Orochimaru: **molests Sasuke**
Sasuke: T_T stop that already plz.
Itachi: **busts in** sup bitches?
Orochimaru: OH SHI-
Sasuke: DEATH
Itachi: STFU. **beats the crap out of Orochimaru**
Orochimaru: **ded**
Sasuke: o_______o; I'LL KILL YOU.
Itachi: hold on, damnit. **puts glasses on** oh, hey, cool, he's dead.
Sasuke: ....**dies**

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Date: 2006-03-22 04:31 am (UTC)
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Orochimaru left Akatsuki because Itachi was stronger than him, and his strength scared him. It was stated in the manga lol, so I would have to say Itachi could woop his ass from Sound to Konoha if he wanted to.

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Date: 2006-03-22 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princess-emmi.livejournal.com
I disagreee that Itachi would easily beat mah Oro-sama. Like it was stated above, Orochimaru left a long time ago, and things like Itachi's blindness and his lack of stamina have since been discovered.

That and Kishimoto's fear thing isn't really working. Like I said before:


Orochimaru fears Itachi, who fears Jiraiya, who couldn't beat Orochimaru (who had no use of his arms) even with Tsunade, Shizune, and Naruto.

It pretty much just doesn't make sense at all.

~Lyn

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Date: 2006-03-22 04:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cephiedvariable.livejournal.com
I think the real question here is:

Would Itachi even care enough to participate in the contest in the first place?

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Date: 2006-03-22 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shiroukotori.livejournal.com
Orochimaru left Akatsuki because he was scared of Itachi. Therefore:

Itachi > Orochimaru

BUT. Itachi said he didn't want to fight somebody as well, so does that mean the strongest ninja in the story has been overlooked and underestimated? I SAY YES!

Orochimaru < Itachi < GAI


YES!

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Date: 2006-03-22 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princess-emmi.livejournal.com
You know what? I know what has caused us all to lose our minds.

It's because Chapter 300 is coming out this week. It's like the full moon.

It changes us into rabid fanpeoples.

I love it ^o^

:D

Yay for rabid Narutard moments~

~Lyn

Also...

Orochimaru PWNS in case anyone forgot. And Sasuke had better be wearing the pool noodle or I'll go rabid-er

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Date: 2006-03-22 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secludedly.livejournal.com
Orochimaru left Akatsuki because the only reason he joined was to fulfill his mission of getting Sharingan, but he left when he realized Itachi was far superior to him and had no chance of ever defeating him.

3 years later up to the time jump, Orochimaru has gotten more powerful, as anyone would, including with his scientific ninjutsu, having of course progressed, learning more and more jutsu as his personal immortal mission has granted him, but of course, time makes a person stronger, and Itachi of course had to of become greater as well.

Itachi didn't recently start having eyesight problems. It's a backlash of the Mangekyou Sharingan, and he can't use only the Mangekyou version for more than a typical period of 5 minutes without having to recover. Kakashi did mention "So... how bad has your eyesight gotten?", but that doesn't mean his eyesight is exactly bad. The acceleration of blindness in a person just goes quicker due to the strenuous amount of damage from high chakra output. He still has the regular Sharingan normally, and even if Orochimaru had it, it wouldn't top Itachi's.

Itachi's shinobi record is more outstanding than Orochimaru's, or any other ninja in any country as far as we know, and was stated to be the greatest potential of shinobi. Orochimaru was given that title as well though.

Generally, Itachi has more experience, a bloodline limit that far surpasses that of almost every other ninja. A genius, intellectual ninja mind, and finally, natural & hardworked skills. His vision is slightly less than a typical persons after using Mangekyou. He can be a master at close-combat, but distant-combat is usually preferred by him.

Generally, Orochimaru is a dedicated ninjutsu learner, definitely surpassing the amount of mostly all ninja, having a much bigger arsenal of jutsu to get him out of sticky situations. The ability to summon different scientific creations, snake gods and serpants. He also does have some natural ability to fight and had scientifically engineered his human genes to elongate his body parts and use his innards as a container for objects like Kusanagi. He's definitely hard to take down in close-combat.

Looking over the statistics, I say that Itachi could clearly still woop Orochimaru... maybe not with as much ease as he once could, but he can definitely slaughter him. Generally though, circumstances differ... like the fight with Gaara and Deidara. Take their fight outside of Sunagakure and the odds are if Gaara didn't have to waste nearly all his chakra to save his village even if he knew he was gonna be tricked, he would have won since he had the entire upper hand mostly... so then again, situations can make a match tilt a whole different direction no matter how much better you are than another. Then again, is there any possible trick to be used against one another when it comes down to Oro and Itachi? It's like Itachi can care less about the world around him and Oro just laughs at all of it... so seriously, what circumstance can make things different? My vite is on Itachi... without a doubt.

I didn't see many serious feedbacks, so I gave mine.

Date: 2006-03-22 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princess-emmi.livejournal.com
I disagree. Kakashi says to Itachi, and I quote "After you used that eye jutsu, you became weary, and immediately left the fight." This suggests that if he were to fight Orochimaru,(who we witnessed in his fight with Tsunade, has a talent for dragging fights out for a long period of time,) He would be outside of his element.

And... maybe you and I have different translations... but in my version Kakashi says : "And just how much has your eyesight deteriorated?" Implying that more then just his mangekyou would be bothered by the whole thing.

It seems that if Itachi lost the ability to use the Tsukiyomi he would hardly be able to match up to someone of such calibre of Orochimaru. I stick to my earlier assumption that Orochimaru would be able to beat Itachi...

Actuallly... I think that at best, they would kill each other off. It just seems inevitable anyways. The whole thing is much too complicated for its own good. >.>;;

~Lyn

Also... this is a hard topic to keep serious for a long period of time. There is nothing wrong with a little silliness.
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Date: 2006-03-22 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kunoichi-jaden.livejournal.com
*replies with Itachi icon*

^_^

Date: 2006-03-22 05:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princess-emmi.livejournal.com
My icon says it all =P

Date: 2006-03-22 05:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rinnychan.livejournal.com
Watermelon > Grape

Date: 2006-03-22 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princess-emmi.livejournal.com
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~! Grape is better!!!

*sniffles* Poor Oro-sama. Grape pwns Watermelon.

~Lyn

And that ficlet owns my soul almost as much as your icon.

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Date: 2006-03-22 10:36 am (UTC)
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Orochimaru. Sorry Itachi. But Orochimaru is sexier than you. :P (<-*is feeling very very shallow today*)

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Date: 2006-03-22 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jiah.livejournal.com
Hmm. It'd be a close battle, I think. Itachi could Mangekyou Orochimaru, and it depends on whether or not Mr. Snake-face has enough chakra strength to break it. If he can't, then it's over for Orochimaru. If he can, then there's a possibility that he might be able to overpower Itachi. Of course, we haven't been able to see exactly what Itachi can do yet, only that he's powerful enough to decimate an entire clan all on his own. Lots of ifs.

On another train of though, I love my fandom. Not just for all the crack responses, but for the fact that this hasn't turned into a total wank fests. On any other community, that would've been the case. I love you guys. ♥

Date: 2006-03-22 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymetaka.livejournal.com
We love you too, Jiah **hugs**

so how bad did the FMA wank get, and is it still going? I'm not in fm_alchemist anymore.

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Date: 2006-03-22 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sharinganuser.livejournal.com
Personally...I think they'd have a moment of, "Hey, I'm sexy and you're sexy, why can't we get along?" and then they'd go off and have buttsecks and later include Sasuke because I am just that much of a freak that I enjoy ItaOro and OroSasu and ItaSasu all in one go.

The end. =]

Date: 2006-03-22 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainbowlasers.livejournal.com
OroItaSasu -

Or how Sasuke wishes people would stop molesting him. What do you have to say on this, Sasuke?

Sasuke: DDD: *sex00red* plz die. *tries to kill Itachi and FAILS*

... It would still be sexy >_> but Itachi doesn't seem to me the kind to share. Which is why he killed the clan.

"Omfg DDD: They all want Sasuke! HE IZ MINE, BEEATCHES!!" and thus we learn Itachi is a shallow fangirl.

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Date: 2006-03-23 04:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sei-kou-ki.livejournal.com
Didn't it say that Orochimaru left because Itachi is stronger than him? Or something...iunno. @_@

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