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After reading the chapter a few times, I think I can start discussing it. :P

If I understood correctly, Sasuke only hanged around Naruto so that a bond would form between them, and so he would be able to kill him in the end to get more power? I hadn't caught that at first. That's what I just understood, and I think it's highly unlikely. He's thinking up lame excuses XD He probably doesn't know why himself.

I'm so surprised and amazed that Naruto can keep his cool like this right now. And even answer Sasuke properly, without going all Kyuubi insane. At the mention of Sasuke by Orochimaru he grew four tails, but now he's in front of Sasuke, and he's saying he'll kill him, and he barely moves or makes a sound. Maybe he's under shock? XD Nah, he's just grown a lot and is able to control himself. Yay, Naruto. ♥

I think it's also clear that Sasuke is trying to provoke Naruto. And also seems to be completely ignoring Sakura. I don't know what to make of that. :/ It all seems a bit...weird. Fake. I mean, how Sasuke is behaving. He's almost like Sai was, with no emotions D:

Seems like they'll be fighting, then. :o I just hope this won't drag off and and never end. I'd love some kind of twist from Kishimoto's part.



Your thoughts?

Date: 2006-05-18 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zaccheo.livejournal.com
id go for the in-control part. though im very aware of the fierce scowl in naruto's face w/c tells that he's getting mad. again (boy, that temper is going to be the end of you one day) but at least he's keeping himself in check now.

He just lost it when orochi called sasuke 'ours' because he's mad at orochi for 'taking' sasuke away from them. i think he's in control because he's als o thinking and this moment is some kind of a continuation of what they have left in the valley. and no, its not shock. he's just being eerily patient.

and he's not ignoring sakura. its just that, its all focused on them, naruto and sasuke. its naruto's bond that he does not break, right, meaning he did break himself from everything and everyone including kakashi and sakura. because he thinks he wants to have the magenkyou. not to mention the twist his brother had made on his mind. (the hate thing) i do hope that its still repairable.

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Date: 2006-05-18 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottishfae.livejournal.com
It's a rare moment when Sasuke doesn't ignore Sakura, especially when there could be fighting involved. Which may be an advantage, seeing that Sasuke probably doesn't know how much Sakura has grown in her fighting skills, though I doubt she could match Sasuke (or Naruto, for that matter) in a fight.

The only thing I'm really understanding about Sasuke, is he is trying to make up excuses and reasons for behaviours in the past that he obviously feels contradicts his goal in life (*die itachi, die!*) as well as his current attitude. Or at least that is what it seems. It feels that he is still trying to prove himself to Naruto, which in itself seems to me to be some kind of bond...but of course they don't have any of that *insert sarcasm*.

As for Naruto not freaking out, it's probably from shock. But it also it probably b.c going Kyuubi wouldn't help him get Sasuke back, or at least he doesn't think it will. He wants to get Sasuke to return on his own volition, or so it seems, but Naruto doesn't have a problem dragging his butt back either. And it does seem that the fighting will be inevitable, and I don't really mind it b.c we get to see some of Sasuke's new skills, but, like you, I really hope they don't drag it out.

My prediction: Sakura will jump inbetween the boys at some point during the fight (like she has in the past) to try and stop them. What will happen, I don't know. (I can wish for certain things but I don't want to offend actual Sakura fans.)



Um, so maybe I missed it in earlier chapters, but have we always known Sai was to assassinate Sasuke? B.c I didn't know this & it seems most people are ignoring that it was mentioned. Or are we to assume that it's possible Sai isn't telling the truth again?

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Date: 2006-05-18 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nan-desu-ka.livejournal.com
Uhh it was brought up a chapter or so back. I forget. That was Sai's real mission that Danzou sent him on. I forget why because I didn't care. I stopped paying attention to Sai when he did a 180 for no apparent reason other than shoddy script writing.

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Date: 2006-05-18 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nan-desu-ka.livejournal.com
Sasuke's lying. Lying~. Whim, my ass. He's been separated from Naruto for a couple years now, so he feels he's got a handle on his emotions and possibly can really kill Naruto now. But we all know how hard it was for him the first time -- his face screamed turmoil the entire time -- and because Naruto has a penchant for bringing up all the things Sasuke's not going to want to think about or remember, you can bet Naruto will get under his skin again at some point. Sasuke you're not a big bad Uchiha like your brother. Stop pretending like you are.

Naruto's just waiting for Sasuke to make the first move. He's definitely got his emotions reigned in (for Naruto). He's weak anyway, and he knows it. He's going to be on the defense for this fight, so really all he can do is try to talk some sense into Sasuke -- and we know how much that's going to work.

Sasuke really needs to stop being retarded though. Idiot.

Date: 2006-05-18 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottishfae.livejournal.com
Sasuke really needs to stop being retarded though. Idiot.

I really think that just sums up everything that ever needs to be said about Sasuke.

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Date: 2006-05-18 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zaccheo.livejournal.com
Sasuke you're not a big bad Uchiha like your brother. Stop pretending like you are.

LOL Heck, yes. the boy's lying through his own teeth. He's trying to pretend he's a strong big bad villain that he is not. And his being stubborn is one of the major problem Naruto is going to face before talking to him.


sana tumigil na nga sa pagiinarte si sasuke. dam, mashado na siyang nagpa2kabading =.=;

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Date: 2006-05-18 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kunoichi-jaden.livejournal.com
And also seems to be completely ignoring Sakura. I don't know what to make of that. :/ It all seems a bit...weird. Fake.

Did he ever pay much attention to her in the first place? o.O Yeah, he spoke to her and stuff... but I don't think she really got Sasuke's attention. Sakura got a lot more attention from Naruto, I think.

Anyway, I think Sasuke is full of crap, with the whole "save you on a whim, kill you on a whim" thing. I don't think sitting above Naruto and staring at him for goodness knows how long and then walking away was a "whim" decision. That's just the lie he's told himself for the past 2 1/2 years.

Date: 2006-05-18 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zaccheo.livejournal.com
LOL hell yeah, gawd, i knew should have waited for 307 before creating a parody. it seem so amusing.

Date: 2006-05-19 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bellpickle.livejournal.com
Honestly, I think Sasuke's fully aware of the fact that he cares/still cares for Naruto, and is basically saying all that just to get Naruto to leave him alone.

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Date: 2006-05-18 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cthulhu-cult.livejournal.com
Naruto couldn't go Kyuubi even if he wanted to, Yamato's got a curb on that chakra.

Date: 2006-05-18 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yira-heerai.livejournal.com
It's obvious to everyone, I think, that Sasuke is lying. Emo and Denial are his best friends. He's their whore plain and simple.

As for Naruto, he can't turn Kyuubi. Yamato said a few chapters back that he was going to surpress that ability. I'll agree that he's calmer, though. I think a lot of it has to do with what happened when he did lose control. He hurt Sakura. He doesn't want to do that again.

The arm hold was Sasuke making sure that Naruto couldn't escape, I think. Surely he's learned the art of mind rape by now- he had Itachi and Orochimaru as teachers in that =\ He's provoking Naruto while physically blocking him so that whatever blow he plans to unleash upon our dear hero won't be blocked. We'll just see how much that works XD;;;

Date: 2006-05-18 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottishfae.livejournal.com
Emo and Denial are his best friends. He's their whore plain and simple. </>

just lovely!

doesn't a quick, swift attack just seem so...un-Sasuke. Maybe it's proof of how much he's changed over the years away, but against Naruto, it would seem he would prefer to show off his strengths. Or maybe, he things Naruto will easily be able to escape from the hold & block his attack. I dunno, just things to think over, I guess.

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Date: 2006-05-19 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rasenth.livejournal.com
Yeeees, it's definitely lying! XDDD

The arm hold was Sasuke making sure that Naruto couldn't escape, I think.
Hrm, for some reason I don't think that. His arm is relaxed on Naruto's shoulder and his hand isn't even holding onto him. As you said, I think he's provoking Naruto and just doing the "Ha, look how cool I am, I can friggin GET THIS CLOSE TO YOU and you could do NOTHING ABOUT IT! >:D" Except more emotionless and such. XD

I'm so surprised everybody's more "Wow that's pretty cool" than "AAAAAAAH!!! *FREAKOUT*" Then again, must be shock. XD

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Date: 2006-05-18 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fujiappletan.livejournal.com
I think Naruto will die; but being the main character get revived and whatnot. Either that or Sakura will interfere and the whole thing gets interupted by some-character. *shrugs*

Date: 2006-05-18 11:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prosperinne.livejournal.com
Hmm, I reallly REALLLY hope that this doesn't turn into a long fight. I hate long fights, I'd like to see Sakura stop it before they even start. Sakura has grown so much, she needs to show Sasuke what she's made of I think.

All the stuff Sasuke is saying? Lies. I really don't think that's his real story/how he feels. He's had two and a half years to come up with stuff, so it should be believable. But I'd be really let down if things don't turn out with him being good and them going to defeat the Sound and blahblahblah. Because I'm sappy and I think that the good prevail, and Sasuke still has some good in him, I know it...

I just hope that Kishimoto doesn't dissapoint us and he gives us a good plot for this little arc. :\

Date: 2006-05-18 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bellpickle.livejournal.com
Sasuke is quite obviously BSing everything he's saying. It's very in-character, too; he's certainly not the type to actually admit he cares about his friends. Instead, he does the exact opposite, and pretends as if they mean nothing to him.

In Naruto's case, Sasuke tells him that he spared him "on a whim," which takes away the one thing Naruto wants most from Sasuke--acknowledgment.

And Sasuke has every reason to ignore Sakura, considering:

First, from what I recall, she hasn't actually said anything yet.

More importantly, if he snapped at her and said, "You're annoying," or something to that effect, then that would be just like the old Sasuke, which is exactly who Sasuke doesn't want to seem like at this time.

Considering how much Sasuke's tried to distant himself from Naruto and Sakura, it makes perfect sense for Sasuke to act like a bastard during this first meeting, because it will discourage them from trying to "rescue" him again.

Date: 2006-05-19 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bellpickle.livejournal.com
*headdesk* I forgot to mention this in my previous comment.

Sasuke only hanged around Naruto so that a bond would form between them, and so he would be able to kill him in the end to get more power?

Well, if he truly is implying that, then it's definitely BS. At the start of the series, Sasuke tried his absolute hardest to isolate himself and push others away--which is why he acted like a jerk to anyone who got within 10 feet of him. And even when he was put in Team 7, he tried his hardest to convince himself that he didn't need his teammates and that he didn't really consider them comrades. If he had been faking it all along, there wouldn't have been so much internal conflict, period.

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Date: 2006-05-19 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fan-geek.livejournal.com
...Does anyone see Naruto being completely instinctive and pulling Sasuke into a hug before he can even do anything?

God, just think about the dimensions... I mean, we all know this a shounen manga, and I'm not shooting for any type of boyxboy inclinations when I'm saying this, but what would Sasuke do in that situation?

And the cute factor just kills me.

Date: 2006-05-19 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bellpickle.livejournal.com
If that happened, I think my head would explode.

As for Sasuke, his head would explode too he'd probably try to keep up his "I am a badass" act following the initial shock.

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Date: 2006-05-19 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rasenth.livejournal.com
The extremely sad part to this is that before this chapter I drew a random doodle of Sasuke saying, "COME TO MY MANLY EMBRACE! xDDD" and now ... it looks freakin' canon. XD When I saw Sasuke put his arm on top of Naruto's shoulder, I'm like "He's halfway there to a hug. HOLY CRAP. XD"

If Naruto DOES hug Sasuke (GOD I SO WANT TO SEE THAT but the chances of happening are nil ;o;), I so want to see everybody do the WTF faces. XD The one with the circular eyes and blocky teeth! XD

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