[identity profile] vaguehobbit.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] chuunin_archive
So, I was thinking about Sasuke the other day, and I wonder what you all think on this...  I don't think anyone else has written about this, but I'm sorry if it's a duplicate.

Let's assume that Sasuke kills Itachi and moves on to the next item on his to-do list: "Revive the Uchiha clan."

Does anyone see this working rather awkwardly?

First of all, where would Sasuke go to revive his clan - in other words, where would settle to he have some kids?  After Sasuke has all his power and gotten his revenge, I'm not sure if he would want to hang around Orochimaru anymore.  Anyways, he won't find anything but a bunch of stupid Orochimaru minions in the Sound.

Suppose he returns to Konoha...   "Hey guys!  I'm back!  So, that huge section of town where my clan lived, I was wondering if it is still mine.  'Cause I'm gonna need the space.  Oh yeah, and I need to find a wife too."  I'm being sarcastic, but you get the point.

What if he kills someone in this fight which just started in the manga?  (Naruto, Sai... anyone.)  How could the village just accept him?  I think some people would be saying, "You traitor, you abandoned the village and killed your former comrade(s).  Now you return when it is convenient to you."  If Sasuke killed Naruto or Sai, would Sakura forgive him and be all "marry me"?  Or anyone, for that matter?  I don't think even Ino would be interested in Sasuke at that point.

Even if Sasuke doesn't kill anyone, it will still be a difficult transition to return to Konoha.  People still might be hard-pressed to welcome him nicely.  He would probably be picky in chosing who to "revive the clan" with.  Seriously, he has never liked Sakura or Ino, and neither of them has any amazing traits bloodlines to pass on.  Hinata is related to him, and he and Tenten have never interacted to imply any feelings.

Geez, at this point Sasuke would be better off just having Orochimaru make a hundred clones of himself and calling that the new Uchiha clan!

What do you think?

Date: 2006-05-26 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ryo0oki.livejournal.com
If we're looking at this from a serious viewpoint, Sasuke could easily just go anywhere else and find a wife. The purpose of reviving the clan is so the Sharingan doesn't die with him, and that has nothing to do with Konoha, really. He doesn't need to return to Konoha ever again, in fact. There are many other villages, and we don't even know how big the Naruto world is, really. :p Sasuke doesn't have to find a Naruto girl, he can find anyone. (And I'm fairly certain the whole reviving the clan thing is something that will only be BRIEFLY touched upon on the manga near the end, if ever.)

Also, when Sasuke made his decision to leave, he pretty much just stuck clan-revival behind kill-Itachi. Since he went to Orochi who wants his body, he pretty much resigned himself to killing Itachi and getting taken over by Orochimaru (unless something unexpected happens, which Sasuke is not predicting).

Looking at this from a SasuNaru viewpoint... well, there's a reason Kishimoto created Sexy no Jutsu! :x

Date: 2006-05-26 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eeerica.livejournal.com
"Looking at this from a SasuNaru viewpoint... well, there's a reason Kishimoto created Sexy no Jutsu! :x"

OOOHH YEAH! XD <3
Millions and millions of SasuNaru babies! =D Yaaay!


& on another note, Itachi travels around a lot, and if he's straight *coughyeahright* I'm sure there are some little Itachi's running around somewhere.. (think about it now) I don't care how emotionally retarded the Uchihas are, they have to get sexually frustrated sometime. XD

Date: 2006-05-26 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainbowlasers.livejournal.com
Reviving his clan is something he knows he needs to do, but he never really thought about it, I'd think. I don't think he actually believes he'll live after killing Itachi. I don't think he'd be even ready to try it if he kills Itachi -- breaking off his biggest bond and terminating a life goal is somewhat, you know, trauma worthy.

Would he even be able to live in the Uchiha compound anymore? Because, last we saw it, it was somehow still BLOODY. And, why hello there trauma-button!

Lastly, Sasuke said so himself -- his dream is in the past. He's ready to give up everything if it means, at the very least, revenge.

Date: 2006-05-26 02:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kunoichi-jaden.livejournal.com
I really don't think that Sasuke even expects to survive the fight with Itachi. I can't explain why, that's just the vibe I get.

And if he does survive a fight with Itachi, he'll be emotionally comatose, since the one thing he's dedicated his entire life to is gone.

And who says that he'd have to get with one of the "main" girls, anyway? XP Let's leave out that I think Sasuke is asexual.

And lastly, Sasuke and Hinata are separated by a whole lot if you want to get genetically technical, considering the amount of time it would take the Byakugan to mutate into the Sharingan (a really LONG time). They're barely related now.

Date: 2006-05-26 04:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tika-veilan.livejournal.com
"They're barely related now." - I agree with that but ...
...if the First and Second Hokages has founded the Konoha village n-years ago and now their (they were brothers and of the same generation anyway) granddaughter is around 50 years old... the number n then most probably equals to 100-150. And that is 4-5 generations assuming a ninja family has their first baby at 30.
If the Hyuuga clan started right with the foundation of Konoha the genes did not have much time so they must have mutated once - to give the world the sharingan. [And scientists say 99% of mutations are bad, huh.] ^_^

Date: 2006-05-26 05:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kunoichi-jaden.livejournal.com
Well, we can't say that the Hyuuga clan started with the foundation of Konoha. ^.~ We don't even really understand how Konoha was started, it could be that it's many small villages finally combined into one. So, it's too hard to say that the Hyuuga and Uchiha clans didn't exist before Konoha did. Besides, if you look at the amount of people in both clans, there are way too many for a simple 100-150 year span.

And a single mutation wouldn't have produced the Sharingan. It has to be multiple mutations. And then it would have to gain dominance over the Byakugan, which would also take a lot of time.

But this is manga. And science is separate. It doesn't have to make sense. It just makes more sense to me this way.

Date: 2006-05-26 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fujiappletan.livejournal.com
I think, that Sasuke at some point realized he could only accomplished one of these goals and prioritized over the other so. *shrugs* Killing Itachi is just more important.

Date: 2006-05-26 02:56 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] superheroine
They have the entire freakin' Uchiha complex, don't they? I imagine he got that little apartment of his own because he didn't want to live in a GIANT complex, on his own, where he witnessed massacre. The only way I could see him going back there is with a wife and kids, and overloading it with GOOD memories.

But I don't think he's going to be accepted back into the complex. He's a missing-nin now. He DITCHED his village, nearly caused the death of the Super Team, and has eluded capture or explanation for over a year. He has WILLINGLY left and WILLINGLY stayed away. Even if the villagers - who may or may not know about him - decide that "hurrah, let's take him back" - the ninja aren't. Sasuke has dishonoured himself to the village. Tsunade may want him back, but hell, he'll be trialed. For all we know, he could be executed.

At this point, I think Sasuke realizes all that - and I think he's going to pick somewhere else. There are bad memories in Konoha, in his old home, everywhere. He'll find someplace else to go, marry, and spawn.

Date: 2006-05-26 06:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nan-desu-ka.livejournal.com
They won't execute him. Well, as long as he doesn't kill anybody. Sasuke was 12 when he left. I don't think he was a legal adult at the time. I could be wrong; I don't know about Japan's legal age, but I doubt it. Also, Sasuke has had a hard life, and any court would take that into consideration.

Plus, Naruto has a pretty close relationship with Tsunade, and as she's basically the Konoha president she has the power to pardon people. I'm pretty much positive on this one.

I highly doubt they wouldn't let him back. Again, if he kills someone from their village it's an entirely different story. But otherwise, yeah. They'd probably demote him or revoke his right to graduate in the ranks of ninja, but that would be about it.

Date: 2006-05-26 06:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kunoichi-jaden.livejournal.com
...in the Naruto-verse, once you become a ninja, you are an adult. They have a license to kill people, after all.

Sasuke is still a traitor... looking at it from a militaristic point of view, if you leave without orders, you've betrayed them.

Date: 2006-05-26 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nan-desu-ka.livejournal.com
...in the Naruto-verse, once you become a ninja, you are an adult.

Ah, ok. I didn't know that. Makes sense, though. Still, they seem so young. :( It's sad.

Date: 2006-05-26 10:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seki-yumizu.livejournal.com
If recalled in the more recent chapters in Tsunade's talk with Hotaru and Homura (the 2 elders, Sarutobi's assistant/teammates, i hope i got the names spelt right) she has to argue and convince to get her way as well ^^;;; Like shown in the example where the elders don't want Naruto to be out on missions because the Akatsuki might get a hold on him, and Tsunade insists he's the best candidate to go out in search of Sasuke.

Sasuke is considered somewhat a traitor because he left the village and defaulted. I don't think killing someone from your own village is considered being a traitor, just maybe a criminal. I don't see Gaara being treated as a traitor... and it's a definite that he has killed people from his own village before.

Date: 2006-05-26 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nan-desu-ka.livejournal.com
Oh yeah I forgot about the elders. They only show up every once in awhile so they completely slipped my mind. xD They would serve difficult, I'd imagine.

Gaara's always been an anomaly IMO. I think most of the village is just afraid of him so they just don't try anything with him. Didn't he make Kazekage because they were afraid, too? I forget. But his own dad did try to get him assassinated so I think for the most part the village would have locked him away or executed him if they thought they had the power to do so. If Sasuke was in his position he'd definitely be disallowed reinstatement into the village. Konoha's just really moralistic in itself -- a lot more than some of the other villages. They wouldn't stand for murder. Mizuki got locked away for good for stealing that scroll and attempting to kill Naruto and Iruka; if Sasuke killed someone from their village and it was unjustified it would be the same way for him, if not execution.

Date: 2006-05-26 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seki-yumizu.livejournal.com
nonono what I was pointing out that it's not considered betrayal to kill a person from your own village since we were on the topic of at what moment in time is Sasuke considered a traitor. I was just pointing out that the moment he decided to default the village, he is automatically considered a traitor, a missing nin. Killing is of course a crime.

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