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[kunoichi-jaden.livejournal.com]

Kimimaro. Sasuke. Kabuto. Something Sakura said...

So, in this chapter, when Sakura was speaking to Kakashi, she told him that she thinks that Sasuke's growth may be due to special drugs.

Well, we all know that Kabuto is quite experienced with administering drugs. Now, I don't quite remember why Kimimaro was sick (maybe someone can refresh my memory) but I had always suspected that Kabuto definitely wasn't trying to make him feel better.

So, does anyone else think its possible that Kabuto may be slowly poisoning Sasuke? He tried to kill the boy before, so, I don't see why he'd be against attempting it again.

All yaoi jokes aside, I think that Kabuto wants to be Orochimaru's next host. If Sasuke died or became too sick for the transfer, Kabuto might be counting on Orochimaru to choose him as the next best thing. (I doubt that he'd want to use some regular guy again and wait another three years.)

Edit: I didn't mean that Orochimaru would use him, as I'm aware that Orochimaru likes special people with special skills (haha, Sasuke, XP).

Kabuto is so much fun to think about. XP

Comments

[ladymetaka.livejournal.com]

That's a really interesting theory, with even more interesting implications. If Sasuke got sick, would he know why? Or could he become resistant to the poison? Would Orochimaru notice?

Thank you for bringing this up, this is an excellent point. I look forward to the debate ♥.

[lykomancer.livejournal.com]

No matter what he does, though, I'd think that Orochimaru would be least likely to choose Kabuto; Kabuto seems too valuable to him as himself-- with all of his own unique skills, talents, strengths, and observations-- to be used as a container. It's possible that Orochimaru gains much of this when he takes over a host's body (which would greatly further his jutsu-collecting), and there's even some kind of bizarre chance that he retains access to the original occupant's memories and some of their thought-processes.

However, Orochimaru's also only one man with some ambitious plans; I'd think that he'd find the extra competant hands and eyes useful, and there's so few other people that are skilled enough and trustworthy (?) enough to be where Orochimaru cannot be and a) not get caught or killed and b) return back to report in with full observations (assuming that both as a spy and a medic Kabuto has a keen eye for detail).

It's been hinted that there's something a little...special about Kabuto, but it doesn't seem like he has a curse seal and-- as silly as this is-- he doesn't wear the distinctive belt. In some ways, Kabuto is very different than all of the higher-ranking others (not counting Kin, Dozu, and Zaku) that have been in Orochimaru's service; Kabuto wears the hitai-ate to indicate his allegiance when he's not infiltrating, but there aren't any other outward indicators of his affliation with Sound. This seems noteworthy since most other characters that are even close to being his "peers" as it were-- the Sound Five and Sasuke-- all have the curse seal and all wear the rope...indicating a kind of subtle solidarity with Orochimaru, an unspoken agreement, perhaps.

Kabuto doesn't seem to like Sasuke all that much, and as you mentioned, it was hinted that he would have killed Sasuke early on in the series...but would he? Kakashi interrupts, and Kabuto's so slippery that it's honestly hard to tell what his intentions were.

...I do, however, have to agree that Kabuto probably was not following the Hippocratic Oath in his treatment of Kimimaro. Heh.

[lykomancer.livejournal.com]

I don't think I reached my point.
That is, Orochimaru seems to prefer to take over bodies that have bloodline limits or are otherwise noteable in combat situation. Kabuto's good and, as I mentioned, there's been an indication that there's something not quite normal about him, but would the advantages that Orochimaru gain from taking his body outweigh the possible disadvantages of losing his right-hand man?

[ormery.livejournal.com]

Wurl, you pretty much said everything I was thinking there xD ♥

Kabuto's skill is nearly all brain-based – erasing his mind and taking his body wouldn't do Orochimaru any favours at all unless there was no other alternative. And I'm pretty sure Kabuto knows that. Even if he did want to be Orochimaru's next host – and he strikes me more as very dedicated than the kind of fanatically devoted that would want to – I think he's bright enough to be well aware it's just not happening.

[hydy.livejournal.com]

If you recall, right after Kabuto backed out of the Chuunin exam, there was a closeup of his eyes as he thought "mustn't let the blood start to boil", and his eyes were a little scary looking.

I think that may be an indication that Kabuto still has more things hidden under his sleeves.

[komabucket.livejournal.com]

He could also be trying to kill Orochimaru, if he's slowly poisoning Sasuke. Once Orochimaru transfers into Sasuke's body, he could be highly affected by any poison given to Sasuke beforehand.

Or, he could be trying to prevent Oreo from transferring to a new body. If he continuously kills off any possible vessels, Oreo won't be able to live forever~

I like your theory too. Oh, Kabuto, you are so unpredictable~

[yira-heerai.livejournal.com]

Interesting theory... *ponders it* They never said, I don't think, why Kimimaro was sick. Just that he was and that he was dying. I wouldn't be surprised if experimentation would be the reason. It seems so.. Orochimaru-esque.

Even if Kabuto wanted to be Orochimaru's next container, I don't see Orochimaru doing it. Kabuto's too important to him on the outside. Kabuto is the one who takes care of him and his experiments, essentially. I'm thinking Kabuto would know this. He's smart enough to figure it out. He could even be smart enough to find a way to counter that.

The thing to ask, I think, is if Orochimaru would figure out what Kabuto's doing and how he would react to that.

Still, I like your theory =)

[moebot.livejournal.com]

I agree with one of the posters above me. If Kabuto did something (or did not do something, as it were) to Kimimaro, and is planning on doing the same to Sasuke, I think it would be because Kabuto is not as loyal to Orochimaru as he would like to lead everyone to believe.

[ormery.livejournal.com]

Hmm. I've never been entirely convinced that Kabuto wants to become Orochimaru's next host, and I don't think he's poisoning Sasuke ... I'm pretty much certain he poisoned Kimimaro, though, but I think that was on Sasori's orders (from the whole 'if you want to stop me ...' bit before Kabuto visits Sasuke in hospital, I reckon it's only shortly before the whole Chuunin exam malarkey that Orochimaru lifted Sasori's jutsu).

[thomasvye.livejournal.com]

I am not sure where this comment came from, from Sakura. Maybe she's just not willing to give up on the idea that Sasuke isn't doing this stuff because he wants to. Which he is. It just seems random to me to suddenly suggest that because someone has grown powerful (interesting assessment of his level based on about 5 minutes worth of contact in which Sasuke did very little comparatively) they have to be on special drugs...uh?

However, I have to agree with you about poor Kimimaro; I always did feel that Kabuto wasn't helping him (I assumed his actually getting sick was just appalling luck).

That's an interesting thought about Kabuto; it never occured to me before, but it's interesting. :)

[ormery.livejournal.com]

It just seems random to me to suddenly suggest that because someone has grown powerful (interesting assessment of his level based on about 5 minutes worth of contact in which Sasuke did very little comparatively) they have to be on special drugs...uh?
I thought she was talking about him having grown physically in size, hence her medic-y judgement coming in handy ... besides which what she said doesn't necessarily assume he wasn't aware of it being done to him, just that Kabuto would be capable of doing it.

[thomasvye.livejournal.com]

There is a much simpler more likely explanation for his growth. Puberty. :)

[ormery.livejournal.com]

xD WELL YEAH MAYBE.

On t'other hand, she's a trained medic, so her judgement probably does count for something.

[thomasvye.livejournal.com]

I shall say nothing about her skills lest my less than glowing opinion get me flamed again. ^-^

[seki-yumizu.livejournal.com]

She said Tsunade suggested it ^^;;;
it's not her own theory.

[moebot.livejournal.com]

I'd think Sakura would know, though. After all, she's been trained as a med-nin by Tsunade, so it's possible that there was something about Sasuke she pegged as "I've seen that before, totally ninja steroids >:|"

[peace-piper.livejournal.com]

That's a good theory. I definitely wouldn't put it past Kabuto to do something like that. In earlier chapters, Orochimaru mentioned that sometimes even he wasn't sure what Kabuto was up to and when they had Sai follow them, Kabuto said he needed more 15-16 year old boys to experiment on. Why? Did Sasuke get tired of it? Was he back at Sound resting from the last testing and that's why he didn't go with Oro and Kabuto?

Kabuto's very sneaky and I wouldn't be surprised if he turned out to be a double double crosser.

[jiah.livejournal.com]

About the needing more bodies: I think he needs bodies to make copies of like he did with Sai's body in the tree. In that case, he used another 15-16 year old and might be running low. S'always how I took it, anyways.

[demonoflight.livejournal.com]

I always thought that Kabuto poisoned Kimimaro 'cause he was jealous of all the attention Bone Boy was getting from Orochimaru. Possibly in that way, one-sided OroKabu amuses me. I never considered Kabuto being a double-double crosser or whatever. Though knowing Kabuto, I wouldn't be too surprised.

[turnip-girl.livejournal.com]

I go with that theory, as it's like something out of an Agatha Christie novel, what with the jealous lover and all. XD

[rainbowlasers.livejournal.com]

Kimimaro's disease was never explained STDs! STDs, I say! but I doubt it would have been Kabuto's own doing. Kabuto has got to be one of the biggest mysteries of Naruto. Orochimaru and him have some sort of connection... But slowly poisoning Sasuke would be stupid, because if he hasn't betrayed Orochimaru 'till now, it's probably because he wants something out of him. And was he really trying to kill Sasuke, that day? We only saw him in the same room before Kakashi made his move.

We don't know what Kabuto's up to, but if he wanted to kill Sasuke, he could have done it before. Orochimaru himself said it -- "if you wish to stop me, kill Sasuke" OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

And what Sakura said ... She said either Sasuke had used a forbidden technique or some drugs to accentuate his growth -- I read that as him having grown perhaps too powerful in such a short time for it to be believable. Sasuke would be the type to use any shortcut, isn't that why he went to Orochimaru in the first place?

(I think I just lost my point here. SOMEWHERE IN THAT, I SAID KABUTO ISN'T POISONING SASUKE NOR DID HE POISON KIMIMARO. Thank you. D:)

[kunoichi-jaden.livejournal.com]

...It's just a guess... I'm not looking for it to be actually true. XP

[rainbowlasers.livejournal.com]

I know. I'm just saying, in my opinion, Kimimaro's disease was STDs! more genetics. Since Kabuto searched in his clan records for how to cure it, no? Or did I invent that? D:

[rainbowlasers.livejournal.com]

...Well yes. But. I mean. That's.

... KIMIMARO HAS STDs FOR REAL. *is broken*

[kunoichi-jaden.livejournal.com]

I can't remember anything about Kimimaro for the life of me, except for the bonezilla thing. XD

[rainbowlasers.livejournal.com]

It's in the anime, atleast. I haven't read the manga in like, years, though.

[boner-for-oro.livejournal.com]

...it was definitely STDs

[rainbowlasers.livejournal.com]

Since it came from Kimimaro himself, it must be true!

[boner-for-oro.livejournal.com]

8Db

[turnip-girl.livejournal.com]

...I think I may have given my two cents on the topic in my fics. So go read them. XD