[identity profile] rinnychan.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] chuunin_archive
My thoughts on 408. Spoilers for...pretty much everything.

I don't think that Sasuke understands how the Akatsuki works at all. Of course, he's not stupid. He knows that they're collecting tailed beasts and has a general idea why. Power. That's attractive to him. However, he doesn't know how they do it, or what results.

1) Orochimaru had no reason to ever mention how the extraction process works to Sasuke. When you want to keep someone under your control, you keep them in the dark as much as possible.

2) I'm sure Sasuke heard about Gaara, who is clearly still alive. Any suspicions he had at that point should have been disproven.

3) Here, Sasuke asks if they've caught the nine-tails yet. You could say this is an assumption, but if it was, I think he would say instead "You mean the nine-tails...and one other." Or something along those lines. He may think it's possible that they already caught Naruto in the past. Further proving that he doesn't know extraction kills the host is the fact that he's been with Akatsuki for about two days and saw Naruto just before--there is no chance that it was done since then, and he doesn't know the details of the process.

4) Sasuke does not kill anyone who had nothing to do with his revenge. This isn't just his decision, but Kishimoto's. Orochimaru was still alive after he was done with him, and so was Deidara. He wouldn't agree to kill an innocent stranger and his best friend in order to get what he wants. He learned that years ago.

I do think that Sasuke has a plan, but I think he's too ignorant to pull it off properly. He's gonna need a major wakeup call when the time comes, and I think it'll be soon. After all, Naruto is going off on his own with just the frog, and it wouldn't take more than Pein's rinnengan to get someone to spill the beans about that.
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Date: 2008-07-12 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tearstreak.livejournal.com
I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't thinks Sasuke's just totally off the deep end. :\

I have hope for him yet! :<

Date: 2008-07-12 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tearstreak.livejournal.com
He'll pull off something I'm sure... I'm really anxious to see it all come to together. And I know Sasuke doesn't kill but I don't think he'd stop someone else from killing so. So if they caught Naruto, would he try to stop Akatsuki? HMM~

Date: 2008-07-12 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tearstreak.livejournal.com
I don't think Naruto would get captured but it's interesting to imagine what Sasuke would do (or not do) if he was. x'D

Date: 2008-07-12 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] helgarr.livejournal.com
I agree, he seems pretty lost.

I anticipate a collision where he, like last time, fails to kill those who he's once hold dear (who did not kill his entire family XD).

Date: 2008-07-12 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-zana.livejournal.com
I have hope for Sasuke as well. I think, despite the fact his latest "choices" are ones I highly disapprove of, when it comes down to it, I'd like to think that Sasuke still has pieces of his sanity/humanity left. I really think he wouldn't let anything happen to Naruto. He is his best friend after all. =]

Because Sasuke and Naruto are going to combine forces in order to take Madara down in the end

Date: 2008-07-12 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tearstreak.livejournal.com
YES, THAT.

Date: 2008-07-12 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tearstreak.livejournal.com
I dunno, he's going off to train with the frogs, will he be in their... frog land? IS THERE a frog land? ...I want to see Naruto fight. :'(

Date: 2008-07-12 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenia-actimel.livejournal.com
This is very probable, but nothing gets the idea that Sasuke's up to something from my head... We've seen him lure and strike before, with Orochimaru, pulling the rug right out from under his supposed master. So I'm betting he's doing it again, and illuding Madara with false compliance.

Date: 2008-07-12 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tearstreak.livejournal.com
Well yeah, if Pein finds him and he hasn't been trained hard enough yet.... Frog dude needs to whip him into shape FAST~

Date: 2008-07-12 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hajhaj.livejournal.com
Sasuke is like a puzzle in Silent Hill; They can be pretty easy to figure out but there's always one that makes you confused as hell, and even with a walk through and cheats, you can never figure that little bastard out. >8|

Date: 2008-07-12 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenia-actimel.livejournal.com
Hmhm! I trust him to be verry verry sneaky.

Date: 2008-07-12 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] senior-witch.livejournal.com
Concerning Sasuke, I still hope that he will betray Madara. Actually I am pretty sure he will, for the simple reason that Madara helped kill his clan, and also that it is out of character for Sasuke to be anyone's subordinate. (I admit however that the Akatsuki cloaks for Team Taka got me worried.)

What I am not so sure about: Whether he will really attack Konoha, and decide not to spare Naruto. He decided not to kill Naruto in chapter 234, but now things have changed - he "knows" now (or thinks he knows) that Konoha was responsible for the massacre.

If he would only stop to think and ask questions!

Concerning Pein, I think that Naruto will beat him - actually I think that Madara is sending Pein to defeat Naruto knowing that Pein won't be able to control the Nine-tails - only the Sharingan can do this - and that he wants Pein dead - but then it will be Madara who will capture Naruto himself.

Date: 2008-07-12 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yumi-maki.livejournal.com
I figure 'Madara' doesn't want to risk that - regardless of what he told Zetsu, he still can't be totally sure about Sasuke's loyalty.

Date: 2008-07-12 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yumi-maki.livejournal.com
I do believe that Sasuke intends to betray Madara as well. The cloaks threw me off for a second but wearing them is actually a great way for Sasuke to 'prove' his loyalty to Madara - besides, it's just a piece of cloth, he still wears his Oro belt after all.

Who would he ask? Madara's only going to tell him whatever he thinks will make Sasuke obey him.

This is the first time I've heard someone doubt Pain's victory - you think Naruto will beat him? How so - with the Kyuubi or the new sage training?
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