About Sasuke...
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:45 pmHi there. Not sure, this has probably been discussed to death (I'm sort of new to to the Naruto community) but I wanted to know everyone's thoughts on this matter. Do you guys think Sasuke will ever go back to the Leaf village? Do you even want him to?
I always liked it better when Sasuke lived in the leaf village with the others and I think Naruto would be devastated if Sasuke stayed evil. But something big would have to happen to get Sasuke off the path he's on. Well what do you guys think?
I always liked it better when Sasuke lived in the leaf village with the others and I think Naruto would be devastated if Sasuke stayed evil. But something big would have to happen to get Sasuke off the path he's on. Well what do you guys think?
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Date: 2008-09-23 09:21 pm (UTC)I'm gonna eagerly await the Naruto sequel where some not so random child was chosen to have Sasuke sealed inside of them... >.< Oh, god.. crack fic just started plotting itself in my mind!!!
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Date: 2008-09-23 09:21 pm (UTC)And together they will defeat the enemy. :P
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Date: 2008-09-23 09:33 pm (UTC)Enough arcs have passed without any Naruto and Sasuke's interaction and I think Kishimoto already fully developed his character, he solved Itachi's question, he made Sasuke fight and interact with different teams and learn new abilities (in such an exaggerated and displeasing way but whatever) and made him more human. Naruto grew as an individual, as well, he faced the death of Jiraya, he went through hard missions and mastered new techniques. And most of all we seen his feelings for Sasuke's depart and his crave to get him back [this can be viewed both as pairing or gen].
There's no point of pursuing the manga this way, unless Kishi gives in to his main adoration and calls the manga "Sasuke" instead of "Naruto".
Now that Sasuke wants to destroy Konoha and Madara seems to support his insane plans, Sasuke and his old team are destined to meet again.
And this is what everyone honestly wants.
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Date: 2008-09-23 09:35 pm (UTC)I guess I'm just not fond of Konoha?
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Date: 2008-09-23 09:58 pm (UTC)I have no idea what Kishimoto's going to whip out for this one, but if I were writing this sucker I'd probably assume that the Konoha elders (assuming they did order the massacre) were taking revenge upon the Uchiha for Uchiha wartime atrocities against their Senju clan. Which... lead to more atrocities, given that the wholesale slaughter of a clan is kinda the dictionary definition of such. Which then leads to... more revenge at Sasuke's hands this time. And now, given Sasuke's threats (though he saaaays he's lying to Madara when he talks to Hawk and vice versa when he talks to Madara)... we're in line for MOAR atrocities! Fun.
So it's a mess. Kishi'll probably deus ex machina it up nice and good either by having Sasuke make a deathbed redemption or a sudden realization by the Uzumaki Punch of Life-Changing Epiphany.
But yeah, given the choice between two simplistic stoopid badly written endings, I'd rather have the one where Naruto punches Sasuke and Sasuke finally realizes that he ought to get his butt out of that Senju/Uchiha cycle of violence tout de suite. I'm a Team 7 fangirl and a NaruSakuSasu type and yeah, I agree that Saucecakes, in that simplistic Kishi-writing way, was probably much happier when he let Naruto blunder into his spikey black little heart. I can't see Kishimoto ending the manga on a low note, so I'd imagine we'll be getting the Naruto Punched Me and I Saw The Light! ending.
And my inner fangirl will be okay with that and overlook the patchy writing and iffy plot logic (mostly). :D
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Date: 2008-09-23 10:05 pm (UTC)It's just my personal preferance, but I prefer Sasuke with Team Taka. =P They definitely have a unique dynamic going on, and I think Sasuke has learned to appreciate his Team 7 days through them. His character developed the most outside of Konoha. =P
But regarding your question -- yeah, I do think he's going to return to Konoha, although I have a hard time figuring out how ... he only has bad memories of the village where he family died, and it was the village that 'killed' his brother, so I don't know if he can bear coming back peacfully and pretending nothing ever happened. =P But meh, it's a shounen series for kids, so I suupose it's going to have a happy ending, with Team 7 reunited. ^^
A friend of mine has a pet theory that it will be Sasuke who will end up being Hokage, and Naruto ends up something like Jiraiya -- an incredibly powerful ninja who gives up the post of Hokage in favour of travelling. But meh -- who knows. ^^
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Date: 2008-09-23 11:56 pm (UTC)Whether he should, and whether it'll make any damned sense in the narrative or seem justifiable/sensible? Harder to say.
I like Sasuke better outside of Konoha. I don't think Naruto and Sakura are good for him anymore, and I don't think he's good for them (note, though, that I don't think any of them are necessarily "bad", just not good with one another, given how they have grown and changed).
I'm not sure at this point that I could buy redemption for Sasuke, as it were. I'm not saying it's totally out of the realm of possibility, but I kind of distrust how Kishi seems to handle him, of late.
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Date: 2008-09-24 01:03 am (UTC)do I want him to? hell no. I guess I'm not that fond of konoha, either, and I've enjoyed sasuke's character so much more since he left the village and pursued his own revengeful goals. idk I like him more when he's a fucked-up godmod.
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Date: 2008-09-25 03:11 pm (UTC)I'm almost 100% certain that when that confrontation with Naruto (and possibly Sakura and Kakashi) happens, Sasuke will be brought to see the error of his ways and everyone will be friends again. That's just the kind of story Naruto is: the kind which has a happy ending, where good triumphs over evil, and the hero's determination and love for his friends pay off and change even the hardest hearts, causing them to choose a better way. Or something like that. Whether or not it will be done convincingly is another story.
As for what I want to happen... well, I suppose I'll be okay with Sasuke's ending up in Konoha, so long as it's not too ridiculously fluffy. I would rather he ended up somewhere else, such as rebuilding the Sound, or succeeding Madara as Mizukage, or something - still remaining friends with his former teammates, but not becoming a Konoha nin. He has every reason not to want anything to do with Konoha anymore, and I don't think he could realistically get over that, outside of authorial fiat. I'll be annoyed if it turns out Sasuke has had a repressed love for Konoha itself all along (as distinct from a repressed love for specific individuals in Konoha), and if Konoha is still presented as only place anyone in the world would want to be. Hopefully I'll be able to live with whatever Kishi comes up with, though... and if not, there's always fanfiction.
And hopefully I'll also find a good fanfic in which Sasuke never does return, and stays evil, and Naruto and the others just have to deal with that. And one where Sasuke succeeds in destroying Konoha and then has to live with that. Because I think those would make for interesting reading as well.
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Date: 2008-09-25 03:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-09-25 07:03 pm (UTC)Still, I can't help but want a really happy ending. With Sasuke in Konoha.
I dunno, I'm okay with animes that have sad/realistic endings when they don't have that many episodes (around 20-30). But with something like Naruto which lasts for years and goes on and on, I get attached and for something I invest so much time in, I want a happy ending. XD
Thankfully, I think you're right and Kishi is aiming for happy. But, true, there's always fanfic!
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Date: 2008-09-25 09:07 pm (UTC)(And I would really prefer this to Naruto making him return to Konoha via some fight.)