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1. Remember after hearing Neji's tale of woe Naruto said ' When I'm hokage, I'll change the Hyuuga clan!' ?
But...Why in the world doesn't the current Hokage (or the 4th or the 3rd ) do anything about the Branch family thing? If Naruto intends to help, why doesn't Tsunade? The 3rd and fourth knew of it too. Why didn't they do anything? Maybe the Hyuuga are a powerful clan, but the Hokage has more power than them and can order them to stop this nonsense. ;/ If I were the Hokage, I would say" WTF, dude? All my people are treated equally!" Screw this protecting Byakugan thing. Bad guys could just kidnap a Main House kid and make that curse seal completely useless. o_O To actually make that effective, they should all bear it.

2. Why is everyone still hanging out with their teacher after becoming chuunin? Sure, they bonded, they're friends. It's been said that Kakashi had never passed a team before team 7, and that Kurenai was a new jounin so 8 was her first team. But Gai and Asuma, for exemple, they should have teached other genins before Team10/Gai, right? Yet we never hear of those.

Also, now that everyone's chuunin, shouldn't those teachers be teaching new genins? Like, Neji is a jounin, yet Gai still "leads" him, even though they're the same rank now. Heck, why doesn't Neji teach new genins? Or lead his own team? We love our teams and would like to keep them together, but is that really how reality is?
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Date: 2009-03-08 04:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demondreams.livejournal.com
#1. The Hokage is an elected position, Tsuande could be replaced by the council and I would imagine that the council likes the Hyuuga's as they are? And The Main house is very powerful (don't know if the Branch house is) so if they were forced to abandon that family tradition they may decide to go against the village or withdraw political support.

#2. Part of the reason genin are put with various Jounin instructors, I think, is that they work well as a team, their skills compliment one another. And as such they would still work very well as teams once the genin become chuunin. For missions it's common for chuunin to be lead by a Jounin. As for previous teams, Maybe they didn't bond a great deal with them, maybe they're on other teams, hell they could all be dead for all we know. And maybe there weren't enough kids that to need them to be reasigned as instructors. Or perhaps their skill set is not appropriate for the kids that graduated this year. Look at Kurenai, her team is mainly made up of people with detection, tracking skills. This is where some of her skills lie as well. So maybe no such kids have graduated this term, or they're with another Jounin Sensei

Date: 2009-03-08 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artisthistorian.livejournal.com
Well I think that the reason none of the previous hokage's have done anything is because they really can't. Even Naruto wouldn't have the political power/right to do anything. What a family does on its own is their business as long as they aren't causing trouble. Because if they acted it would cause a riot, as it would in todays society. Privacy is a key to a stable government (in my opinion)
As to the second question...I guess its just becuase they have bonded and supposidly been through live or death situations with. Things like that probably happen in the military too. (But if I were on Kakashi's team I'd hang out with him but for other reasons ^.^)
It just wouldn't be fun to the plot to take away the jounin from the main characters XP

Hahaha thats the longest comment I've ever written ^.^ Those are just my thoughts.

Date: 2009-03-08 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] numara.livejournal.com
1.) It was:

A.) Probably never brought to their attention.

or

B.) They have no power of it.

even though whoever is currently hokage is supposed to be the most powerful ninja in the village and make all of the important decisions, there's still the council. so if say, Tsunade wanted to do anything about it, she'd still have to get permission from them because it's about something that would affect a WHOLE clan. also, because the Hyuuga are so powerful, there would probably be at least a few of them on the council, and if they were apart of the main family, i assume that they wouldn't want to give up the power they had over branch family.

i think that it was different for Naruto because he was making a genuine promise to Neji to actually change things; and we know that once he makes a promise, he almost always keeps it - regardless of who's rules he breaks in the process.

i wonder why only the hyuugas have the seal, though. i'd imagine that something like that would have been way more necessary for like, the uchihas, since everyone seems to want the sharingan.

2.) i don't think that they have to lead new teams: if the team is successful and everyone works well together, why mess with a good thing? also, i think more people would be upset if kishi just started giving the teachers new students. the teams are something that we're used to. i know that i probably wouldn't like a new "team 7/kakashi" more than the one we already have.

Date: 2009-03-08 04:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dailysky.livejournal.com

@1. is it really? i thought that shortly before jiraiya and naruto went to find tsunade it was pretty much an appointed position. they tried to appoint jiraiya but he refused so they chose tsunade. i mean appointed as in "oh, this person should be hokage next," — i don't remember any panels of a council voting a person in. then again, that was a while ago, and i just may not remember it.

Date: 2009-03-08 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] senbonzakura77.livejournal.com
Hinata and Neji would become the next Sasuke and Itachi, eh?

Rather a scary thought..

Date: 2009-03-08 04:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demondreams.livejournal.com
if they decided to go against Konoha I think most Branch members would either fight with them or be killed. We don't really know which has more of Neji and Hinata's loyalty. The family or the village.

Date: 2009-03-08 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demondreams.livejournal.com
well I don't mean a vote like in an election so much as discussing it amongst themselves and deciding who they want to appoint

Date: 2009-03-08 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demondreams.livejournal.com

A.) Probably never brought to their attention.

They would HAVE to know. It's not exactly a good position to be in to not know that a large portion of your military forces can be dropped in seconds flat


i wonder why only the hyuugas have the seal, though. i'd imagine that something like that would have been way more necessary for like, the uchihas, since everyone seems to want the sharingan.
but everyone wants the Byakugan also. My guess is it has to do with the size of the family?

Date: 2009-03-08 04:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demondreams.livejournal.com
damn I meant to use this icon for this post given the mention of Naruto's promises

Date: 2009-03-08 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] numara.livejournal.com
hmm, i see your point. i'd concede then that it was probably never just a big enough priority and that the hokage alone still wouldn't have the power to change it without at least half of the council backing her. and then that's where naruto comes: he cares enough to stand up to the council and change it regardless of what they say.

My guess is it has to do with the size of the family?

this has to be it, because when it boils down to importance, the sharingan is just, if not more, important and powerful than the byakugaan. but i mean, since kakashi was able to receive obito's eye so easily, i would imagine that they would want to make it a priority to make sure that it doesn't fall into the wrong hands.

Date: 2009-03-08 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] numara.livejournal.com
lawl, too cute! I LOVE ME SOME FRIENDSHIPPY!GUY!LOVE.

Date: 2009-03-08 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demondreams.livejournal.com
Don't forget though that the Sharingan EVOLVED from the Byakugan. So if someone got their hands on it they may be able to breed Sharingan users as well.

As much as Neji hates the Branch system I wonder if all of the Branch family feels that way. Some of them may be proud to be the guardians of the family ya know?

Date: 2009-03-08 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demondreams.livejournal.com
the third movie is all about the pinky love <3

Date: 2009-03-08 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demondreams.livejournal.com
the third movie ^_^

Date: 2009-03-08 04:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] numara.livejournal.com
Don't forget though that the Sharingan EVOLVED from the Byakugan.

this is true, but i imagine that it would take YEARS for that to happen and that it would just be easier to actually kidnap someone with the sharigan. that being said, i guess that it's just a safety protocol that both can benefit from: protects the hyuuga technique right off the bat, and also prevents the possibility of the enemy ever creating their own sharingan.

i think it's a matter of personal experience. i think that it was different for neji because his father had to sacrifice his life in order to save his uncle. if that had never happened, perhaps he wouldn't feel the same. that being said i don't think that all of the branch family feels the same way the he does, but i imagine at least some would.

Date: 2009-03-08 04:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] numara.livejournal.com
that's the cresent moon one right? i think that one was my favorites. i mean, they went to the circus. and kakashi and lee were in shortsleeves and shorts. INSTANT CLASSIC. \O/

Date: 2009-03-08 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demondreams.livejournal.com
I know! and circus animals on the attack don't forget that XD

Date: 2009-03-08 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demondreams.livejournal.com
probably right on the personal experience thing. Neji seems to be a lot less hateful of the Main house now that he knows his father VOLUNTEERED to let himself be killed.

Well given that there are a lot more Hyuga then Uchiha it's practically speaking easier to kidnap a Hyuga (a la baby Hinata kidnapping). But it would take a while to breed a new Sharingan strand, though it would be worth it if they succeeded. The secret is breeding the angstiest Hyugga together, Sharingan is proportional to angst you know

Date: 2009-03-08 05:07 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] gwinna
Regarding the Hyuuga... the Hokage is probably afraid that if s/he meddles, they might turn against the village as the Uchiha almost did. I don't think Naruto would have any more power to change it, except insofar as he has some influence on Hinata and Neji, since the change must come from within. It would make most sense for every Hyuuga to have the curse seal. I remember that's what happened in "Rosemary For Remembrance" by Sintari.

Regarding the teams... I've thought about that before and it's just one of those things in Naruto that make absolutely no sense. Another thing is: how do they make sure that exactly nine students pass the test to become genin? The jounin seem to decide this on their own without communicating with each other, so why couldn't four or five jounin have decided their teams were worthy of passing, or only one? Just one more thing that requires suspension of disbelief...

Date: 2009-03-08 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] numara.livejournal.com
The secret is breeding the angstiest Hyugga together, Sharingan is proportional to angst you know

LOL. so this is the true secret of the uchiha's, eh?

Date: 2009-03-08 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demondreams.livejournal.com
uh huh! think about it, the only happy Uchiha we see are Sasuke's mom and an elderly pair , none of whom are ever shown to have Sharingan. It TOTALLY goes hand in hand with the angst gene

Date: 2009-03-08 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demondreams.livejournal.com
More then nine pass the test to become Genin, there are at least 8 teams that were assigned at the beginning, at three apiece that's 24 Genin assigned in Iruka's class alone. There may be more with other teachers. As for the Jounin I think that's a fail safe against people being passed from the academy before they're actually ready.

Date: 2009-03-08 05:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] numara.livejournal.com
jesus, you're right. oh, but then there's obito, but then he end up biting the big one in the worst way possible so i imagine there was some angst in there too. >.>

it would be so interesting if like, kishi made it so that uchihas had a history of depression or something in their family. idk, that would be so fucking cool to me. /lame
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