Some thoughts...

[frozentrumpcard.livejournal.com]

K I was just wondering on this one...

The deal with Garaa right now leads many of us to believe (as much as we may not want it to) that Garaa is dead now that the Shukaku has been extracted from him. Also, many people will go as far as to say "He's not dead! He can't be dead! Garaa I LUV U!!!!!!" And so on... But heres a idea...

Maybe Kishimoto wants him dead for a good reason, not just an afterthought to Akatsuki's plans.

Personally I believe that Garaa has been through enough in his life. While being a awesome character, he has been throught hell and back with the Shukaku incident, his mother, his childhood, the constant fear of his existance etc. Now that Garaa has somewhat found his place and he has become the new Kazekage others have aknowledged him for who he is. This is seen when he is fighting Deidara and the other ninja are cheering him on. This may be a lasting peace to him that leaves him with little regret. Also, in classic Kage fasion, Garaa succeeded in saving the village by sacrificing himself. Sound familiar?

So tell me what you think, bad or good. It'll give you something to do ;)

Comments

[tekdeath.livejournal.com]

It may turn out into an amzing plot device if he is dead. I think if Kishimoto brought him back now it would be really stupid if you ask me.

[frozentrumpcard.livejournal.com]

true, but writers have done it in the past...

[deidarachan.livejournal.com]

Aw, that only makes it sadder...

*sniffle*

[frozentrumpcard.livejournal.com]

yea but you should be happy for ol' Garaa. He's (possibly) in a better place now...

[nayami.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but does he still have to die like a rock? LAME. Snore. Ect.

[belmoon.livejournal.com]

Rocks don't die, they merely fade away~ XD

[frozentrumpcard.livejournal.com]

It still is a crappy way to die :(...

[belmoon.livejournal.com]

Actually, I don't think he's dead. Buuuuu~t I won't get into why here, as I'm not in the mood for a debate. *BTW, nobody's putting these recent debates up on debattebayo, I wonder why?* If he DID die, then, yeah, that was indeed a crappy way to go. D:

[nayami.livejournal.com]

YES! Pimp my Weapon! *loves you*

[belmoon.livejournal.com]

OMG. O__O To be honest, I didn't even remember that you were the mod there. This is just the best coincidence ever. :D What are the odds?

[lunaneko.livejournal.com]

He deserves a glorious death - All Kages got one - 4th sealed 9 tails, 3rd took off Oro's hands. His "death" was like 2 panels long angst and after that he was turned into a couch by Akatsuki clowns and then swallowed by a bird. I don't buy his death now - if Kishi wants to kill him off - he better come up with something better then this...Besides, they've been throwing the word "death" around too much - that alone is fishy to me...and Gaara's story is far from finished -even though he became a Kazekage, we know nothing of how it happened and for how long he's been in charge, plus he obviously looked unsatisfied still...plus - Naruto can't break another promise...:-P

[rejectedstalker.livejournal.com]

Hokages get good deaths. The last Kazekage wasn't even killed onscreen. Kishimoto is anti-sand people. :P

[lunaneko.livejournal.com]

Well, last Kazekage wasn't exactly a good guy, so he deserved to die. Gaara is different - setting his "come to the good side" thing for so long and then kill him off - not a very good plot developement...well, at least I think so.
Hey, anti-Sand you say? Well, Kankuro lived, as far as I remember, :-P

[lunarwhirl.livejournal.com]

I LOVE YOUR ICON. I remember that doujinshi. XDDDD

[belmoon.livejournal.com]

Haha, thanks! X3 That doujin was too funny. I may have to make more icons from it. :D

[lunarwhirl.livejournal.com]

Wait, do you have a link to it?

[belmoon.livejournal.com]

Link to what? The doujin? Naruto Central has it in their multimedia section.

http://narutocentral.com/index.php?page=member/news

[rejectedstalker.livejournal.com]

That's the only thing that bothers me about Gaara dying. All the other big deaths, and even near-deaths, in the series have been pretty violent and memorable. Gaara just kind of stopped floating and they're, like, that's it, he's dead. There should at least be a big moment where it happens.

[frozentrumpcard.livejournal.com]

this is true, Garaa at least desearves a more memorable death (if it has happened) then a few panels of bland movement...unless thats how Akatsuki likes it done :X

[ex-rong.livejournal.com]

Agree, think that Gaara is not dead, yet.

[digital-z3ro.livejournal.com]

i stand by the fact he'll do something big before he dies, if he dies

[rasenth.livejournal.com]

Okay, sorry to sound rude but...
His name is spelled Gaara. Two a's before r. Kthx. XD;;

And I believe Gaara's alive. Mainly because I'm a sucker, Gaara's such a good character, AND in the past, in most of the "death" scenes (Neji and Chouji!), the people didn't die. So there's a chance. A faint chance he's alive and/or can be brought back, but a chance! X__X;

And as the people said before, the scene where Gaara supposedly dies was a little.. non-dramatic.

[frozentrumpcard.livejournal.com]

sorry, but its like when you think of a japanese name and you can switch some of the lettering around to make it sound more like English with emphasis.

I.E.-Chouji and Choji, Kankurou and Kankuro

Gaara...got it :)

[rasenth.livejournal.com]

Happy to be of service! :0

[omnikaze.livejournal.com]

why have mr bomber take the body with him if he's dead?
so maybe he's still alive!?

[frozentrumpcard.livejournal.com]

possible...very possible...

[rejectedstalker.livejournal.com]

I thought he took him as bait for Naruto.

[omnikaze.livejournal.com]

bait yah right! naruto is sooo dense and head strong even if he didn't take the body naruto would've still been pissed.

[mipi.livejournal.com]

Plus... Deidara wants to make Gaara-sama go Boom Boom!

[kookie315.livejournal.com]

Good theory with the going out in glory. Whatever Kishimoto is planning, it better be good. Either way a lot of people are going to be disappointed and others will be pleased.

[lunarwhirl.livejournal.com]

Ok, rewrote my comment to have a point. ^^;;
Sorry, my brain had died. =P

[lunaneko.livejournal.com]

AMEN, girl.

That actually made me cry a bit...

[oneiroelpida.livejournal.com]

*blushes* I'm really flattered you thought that good enough to bring over. ^_^ And it saves me from having to argue it again.*grins*

[oneiroelpida.livejournal.com]

Whoah. My post's taken on a life of it's own! *laughs* Yeah, I go by Oneiropolos on the Narutofan forums. :) I'm not worried about being credited, just astonished that it was so well liked!

[ningengirai.livejournal.com]

What bugs me most about Gaara's presumed death is how and when he died; by 'how' I mean 'how easy' and by 'when' I mean 'in the manga'.

The 'how easy': No, I don't think that Gaara should be an omnipotent, immortal warrior who survives everything; I don't think either that Deidara should be a weakling who runs at the first sign of trouble; finally, I don't mind at all that Gaara got beaten in a fight. It happens. It's life, and it happened to him before. However, this fight seemed far too easy to me. Yeah, Deidara got mauled a little, but in the end, nothing really happened aside from a bit of sand flying around that finally got mixed with explosions. Gaara may not move much during a fight but he nevertheless is a ferocious and dedicated, if not a bit obsessed fighter; that he was beaten so easily rankles me. It pretty much undoes what Kishimoto did with him before by building him up to a mysterious and seemingly unbeatable character.

It also, in my opinion, makes the Akatsuki too powerful in a way that smells like bad storytelling: powerful character gets beaten by more powerful character gets beaten by even more powerful character gets beaten by... god? If the 'eyes' or whatever it was on that thing that sucked Gaara's Shukaku out are any indication, the Akatsuki may or may not already have managed to capture more than just Gaara's demon. To have accomplished that, if they have accomplished it and I'm simply not reading into things too much, they look pretty much undamaged and happy-go-lucky to me. Yes, Naruto and Co do get older and subsequently, as they gain more power/skills, their enemies should be more powerful/evil, but... where does it end?

The 'when': It simply came too quickly for me, and considering the lengths the manga goes to sometimes to lead up to an event, this certain event came rather unexpected. Maybe it was intentional, but I for one sat blinking at the screen, wondering if anyone got the license plate of the truck that hit me. One minute, we see Gaara as an older, wiser, almost grown-up leader of a people that suddenly love/trust him, the next minute there's an attack, the next minute Gaara lost the attack, and the very next minute he's floating around while Shukaku is being sucked out of him.

That's bad storytelling, again, if you ask me. We hardly got to see anything about that 'new' Gaara aside from a cool new outfit and wow, lookie there, a sand wave that encompasses the entire village and uh, nevertheless accomplishes almost nothing.


...and not to attack you personally, but: Gaara's childhood and most of his adolescence may have been terrible, but I find 'death' to be quite an inadequate reward for suffering through so much. I don't know about anyone else here, but if I had a childhood like this and suffered through so much, then FINALLY found a modicum of peace and happiness only to have it ripped away AGAIN quite unexpectedly... I'd be pissed and there'd be hell to pay, even if I had to come back as a ghost to kick some ass.

/two cents
/rant
/tangent

[rejectedstalker.livejournal.com]

Not everybody gets a happy ending. Haku sure as hell didn't, and he deserved it at least as much as Gaara does.

And Gaara's defeat was no worse than Itachi beating Asuma and Kurenai, and then taking out Kakashi in a second. Good or bad, that incident all those chapters back kind of set the standard for Akatsuki - the first one we really see in action is super-badass and he's taking orders from somebody else. The rest can't be beaten by a kid.

Maybe he was beaten too quickly, but I don't think it's much more unbelievable than Shikamaru "beating" Temari or Kabuto beating Tsunade. It's been shown several times in Naruto that a good strategy can trump raw power.

I don't think he's gonna die, though.

[lunarwhirl.livejournal.com]

Amen to that.
Slightly OT, but I think Haku did get a happy ending. He and Zabuza ended up in heaven, away from the pain that had haunted them their entire lives. Think of it, they fight so hard, and kill many people as a result. And then, at the end where everything seems to fall apart, Zabuza takes that kunai in his mouth and kills the bastard who (essentially) was the cause for that scenario. Then he dies by Haku's side. I'm assuming by the light coming down and Kakashi's comment that Zabuza was forgiven and they were allowed to be together.
*whew* Sorry for that. *gets off box*

[oneiroelpida.livejournal.com]

I agree with you about Haku. To me, Haku knew he mattered to Zabuza. He was much more at peace about everything than Gaara was. I'm not sure Gaara actually knows he matters. I don't think he does, because we have that whole conversation that seems to take place in his head where he basically asks why he ever lived at all. Gaara STILL doesn't really know what he lived for, and I don't think Gaara can until he realizes that people care about him. Which is why I refuse to believe he's dead. >.>

[lunarwhirl.livejournal.com]

A lot of fans have been going "OMGHESDEDKISHIMOTOSUX." Yes, it does suck. But he was fighting for something he believed in--his people (who really didn't want him around and even tried to kill him at first). He was willing to fight and die for THEM. Imagine he strength of will it must have taken for him to overcome all that anger and resentment he must have felt towards them and instead, rise above it all to become the Kazekage and look out for them. Even with Naruto giving him a kick in the ass to do it, it must have been hard.
I think that's a pretty good death, one with strength and honour involved. Fighting and dying for something you believe in is ALWAYS worth it.