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When Itachi tells Sasuke that he has the ability to develope the Mangekyou Sharingan technique, he says that Sasuke must kill his closest friend. Since Naruto didn't die... does that mean that he still can't use his eye like that? We all saw that his eye formed into its complete form... so why did that happen if Naruto didn't die?

Date: 2005-12-20 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayuuko.livejournal.com
... The 3-tomoe (fully developed) Sharingan is NOT the mangekyou... that's the reason... Sasuke just fully developed his Sharingan... but that's not the Mangekyou

Date: 2005-12-20 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sephibroth.livejournal.com
yea i'm guessing because he finally mastered it or something and became ONE WITH THE EYE or because him and naruto were having the ultimate battle so that just pushed it into gear or something.

Date: 2005-12-21 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sephibroth.livejournal.com
yea i dunno i kind of think that the whole killing your best friend to get it thing is a lie and just some sexy plot twist thats set up for us but weel have to wait and seeee

Date: 2005-12-21 12:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sephibroth.livejournal.com
well i dont necessarily mean HES the one lying but maybe the records he read werent telling the truth (or the complete truth)

Date: 2005-12-20 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ovendoor.livejournal.com
Also Sasuke says something about finding a different way to get the Mangekyou Sharingan (i hope i didn't just imagine that o_o;)

Date: 2005-12-20 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kush.livejournal.com
Well, he didn't say he was going to find a different way to get it, he just said he was going to find a different way to get the power to defeat his brother.

Date: 2005-12-22 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ovendoor.livejournal.com
That's the one! :D;

Date: 2005-12-20 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thomasvye.livejournal.com
Itachi lied. ^^ (That's what I think)

Date: 2005-12-21 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shuqra.livejournal.com
I always thought that too (which explains how Kakashi got Mangekyou without killing his friend)

Date: 2005-12-21 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nasouiishimata.livejournal.com
I think Itachi lied too, but he didn't lie about the three users either. (only three people alive had the potenial to awaken it)

Date: 2005-12-21 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cest-jolie.livejournal.com
Ah, I don't recall that he said there were three people alive! How cool, maybe that includes Kakashi?

Date: 2005-12-20 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ninja-demongirl.livejournal.com
well kakashi got his eye thru some method

Date: 2005-12-20 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tekdeath.livejournal.com
But it's an altered version of mangekyou sharingan, probably because he isn't a full blooded uchiha.

Date: 2005-12-20 11:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] reservoir.livejournal.com
Sasuke's sharingans are fully developed to the limit of the Uchiha clan, before the magenkyou. Having three dots in each eye is not magenkyou. He cannot do what Itachi does, at least not yet.

He said that he wouldn't do what Itachi did, that he would find a different way to get it.

Kakashi does appear to have a different form of sharingan, but it looks different from the magenkyou, though somewhat similar.

Date: 2005-12-20 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfpilot06.livejournal.com
Sasuke didn't acquire the Mangekyou Sharingan in his battle against Naruto. He achieved the "three-comma" level of Sharingan, which not only allows him to copy moves and whatnot like the earlier levels of Sharingan allows him to do, but to actually see - visibly - the moves that his opponent is about to make. I have a feeling that the first stage of the Sharingan (single-comma) enabled him to react faster and/or see movements better; the second stage allowed him to copy moves (I can't remember if the first level allowed him to do this); and the third allows him to do both and to see moves before they happen.

The Mangekyou Sharingan - the triangulated pupil that Itachi (and now Kakashi) possesses - is an entirely different thing altogether, allowing the user to use Tsukiyomi (sp?), a high-level genjutsu that often has psychosomatic backlash. Apparently, Kakashi's found a way to activate the Mangekyou Sharingan - Obito died for/because of him years ago, but I have a feeling that the lack of his Uchiha blood has obstructed him from reaching this high level of Sharingan before. And, apparently, the Mangekyou Sharingan possesses the nifty power of transporting things/people into another dimension, although it seems to cause a lot of strain to Kakashi (probably, again, because he doesn't have any Uchiha blood aside from the few drops that came with his eye).

But, uh, yeah, Sasuke doesn't have the Mangekyou. I'm fairly sure that he'll either find another way to get it, or he'll forsake it entirely for the sake of keeping Naruto alive.

I don't think Itachi was lying; or at least, he doesn't think he's lying. Perhaps the Uchiha scrolls/records were lying to him, though. I'm fairly convinced that he was being truthful when he said that the acquisition of the Mangekyou Sharingan requires that the user kill his best friend, though, since he killed his cousin/best friend (Shisui?) to get it.

**Wolf**

Date: 2005-12-21 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sephibroth.livejournal.com
that was a good answer :D

Date: 2005-12-21 01:33 am (UTC)
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