Sharingan question.

[riza.livejournal.com]

So, hi. I have a feeling that I might possibly be ridiculed for asking this question, but here we go anyway.

Do you think a Sharingan user can see in the dark? And if so, to what degree?

I don't recall this ever being addressed in the manga or anime, and can't seem to dig up anything about it online, other than the basics (what Sharingan can be used for; ect.). I could probably have looked a little harder, but I figured that all of you knowledgeable people over here could help me out.

Maybe?

Thanks for everyone's help! I have a pretty decent idea now, and some interesting ideas.

Again, thanks!

:D

Comments

[rainejoybringer.livejournal.com]

That's an interesting one... But I don't think so. The only thing I can think of is that it is able to pick up and notice movement a lot more clearly, which could be an advantage in a not entirely dark area.

[riza.livejournal.com]

Hmm. So there would be some difference compared to normal sight in an environment with at least a little light, but in a fully dark setting it's a no go? That's what I was thinking, but I wasn't sure if there was something I may have missed.

Thanks!

[rainejoybringer.livejournal.com]

I'd say so. But overall I think it'd see in terms of light and darkness just the same as any normal human eye.

[riza.livejournal.com]

Hmm. Good, good. Thank you very much for your input. It helped a lot. :D

[askerian]

I tend to agree with Raine. They'd catch sight of anything moving a lot better, but that wouldn't necessarily make their abilities to pick up unmoving things all that much. Maybe a little, but you could put that on account of "channeling chakra in your eyes" and then anyone who knows the water-walking exercise could do it to some small degree (provided they're good enough not to explode their eyeballs. XD) Kiba's family did find a way to channel it in their nose to a high level, after all. Depends what you need for your plot, it would be easy to justify either way.

[riza.livejournal.com]

Eeee, I love your icon.

*nods* True. That's a good point, about Kiba. I'll have to remember that. Thank you!

[rainejoybringer.livejournal.com]

There's a little something niggling at the back of my mind though. To be able to see in dark places, the pupil has to dilate to allow more light in. However, I'm curious as to if the commas in the Sharingan affect that though, as they almost seem to act as 'mini-pupils', allowing the user to see more. Does that mean that they can contract and dilate too or are they stuck like that?

[riza.livejournal.com]

Hmm. I'm curious as to whether the added pupils would, in turn, mean that all in all there was more surface area to let light in. But it would still mean the same thing in a pitch black environment. Would it change the quality of sight in a low-light area, though? And the whole contract/dilate thing is a good question, too.

D:

Wow. This is a bit more complicated than I thought it would be.

[rainejoybringer.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I'm starting to think we're looking too deeply into this.

But I don't think the sharingan commas wouldn't let in too much light. They are rather tiny. And if the main pupil is stuck at one size, it's not much of an improvement anyway.

[book-people.livejournal.com]

Well, in the Zabuza arc, he got around Kakashi's sharingan by creating a really thick fog, because if Kakashi couldn't see him (and vice versa), he couldn't use it. I'd assume this would be true in the dark as well. If you can't see what you're using sharingan on, you can't use it at all.

[riza.livejournal.com]

Ooooh yes. * nods *

[cupcakexpirate.livejournal.com]

Haha, I love your question.
That brings me back to when I first watched Naruto and thought "Why does that kid have kitty whiskers?"
Oh and as for answering I think it's one of those sensing movement things.
It can't exactly see in the dark but the user's mind makes up what their surroundings looks like and what is happening.
You know I even confused myself with that one.
Good question!

[rinnychan.livejournal.com]

Depends on if they can see at all or not~

[side-reflected.livejournal.com]

The red eyes make you go blind so they're use to the dark. (itachi) and they might use it to scare people. "OMG! WTF are those red eyes doing staring at me!!! And it's DARK!!! mom?... mom?... MOM!!!! were the f*** are you?!?!?" *pees pants*

Hope this comment was to your liking! ^-^

[ane-s-thesia.livejournal.com]

(Oh, goodness, Riza! You made me go brush up on my vo-tech cat-eye dissection notes! XD LMAO)

I think your question deserves a 'yes' and a 'no', to be honest.

When you think about why the Sharingan makes it so that movements can be seen incredibly, and almost as if ahead of time...

You could say that perhaps Uchiha eyes have many times more Rods than a normal eye. This makes it so that light and movement are picked up much more sensitively than normal. A cat, for example, has like six times more Rods than humans do. That's about 12,000 stacks of 'em, which makes it so that they can 1) see very, very well at night and 2) pick up movement almost ungodly fast compared to human eyes. (Ever wonder why cats are so twitchy? =3)

So let's say that when the Sharingan activates, the chemical Rhodopsin (which is the stuff in the rods that absorbs light) is automatically over-activated which in turn causes the pupils to dilate so that more light can filter through AND so that movement can be more easily picked up.

In a way we could say that yes, if Uchiha Sharingan eyes are based on more Rods-- then they would also be able to see better in the dark, too.

(Not in pitch-black, though. Not even a cat can see in pitch-black.)

You could also think of it this way (I just thought of this right before I clicked 'post comment' XD)-- Maybe the red of the Sharingan isn't actually like a 'bleeding of color' onto the Iris like it looks like.
Maybe when the red appears it's actually because the eye is dilating. The red is actually the reaction to light reflecting off blood vessels within the eye itself. And if we wanna add in the cat's-eye-theory, we could say that an Uchiha's eye has an extra reflective surface inside already (to compliment the many Rods), so the light reflection on the dilated pupils is EVEN MORE dramatic because of this.



^_^ EH?

[psychedelic-aya.livejournal.com]

I understood this and all, but WOW. The Science amazes me. XD Go youuu.

[ane-s-thesia.livejournal.com]

lol... thanks. XD It's a pretty basic idea, anyway. There are things that of course contradict it if you actually look deeply into the idea >.>, but who knows if Kishimoto even intended for there to be an explanation behind any of this anyway, right? /laughs/

[thepsion5.livejournal.com]

I had a theory similar to this some months ago, but you have created a much more concise and well thought-out version of it. I am extremely impressed. 0.0

[ane-s-thesia.livejournal.com]

Hehe~ Yeah, like I said to psychedelic_aya above- this is a pretty basic idea. Not the least bit surprised someone else had thought of it before me. ^_^ I'd never really wondered before, to be honest, but the whole question about night-vision made my brain start tinkering. Perhaps I'm just lucky that I'd studies something similar back in my Animal Science vocation many moons ago, or else I might not have even pinned the chance that a cat's eyes could possibly be similar to what Kishimoto has made the Sharingan in to.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of unanswered details involved in this theory. =\ Things that aren't actually possible, at least not in what *actual* scientific study has uncovered in already existing, real creatures.

Questions like:

Is it possible to have so many Rods but still a healthy enough number of Cones for human eyes to function as they should? (Because what Cats and other nocturnal hunters have in Rods is decreased in Cones, which is probably not a coincidence. Because of this, their daytime eyesight is below satisfactory, and they also tend to be incredibly far-sighted. Would it be safe to say that perhaps all Uchiha who possess the Sharingan are far-sighted as well?)

Or...

Because of the actual nature of how Rods work with the brain and nervous system, how is it possible for someone with the Sharingan to not only 'see ahead' movements, but also copy them? You'd have to explain it as a phenomenon where all Uchiha possessing the Sharingan not only inherited the eyes, but also a further evolved brain. o.O (Rods don't display nearly as clear of a picture to the brain than Cones do. So you'd think that'd effect memory? Is it even possible to see something like hand-signs and memorize them within a millisecond? XD)


Oh em gee, brain break! /runs away screaming/